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March, 2005

12.03 ½ hrs.

STANDING COMMITTEE ON COAL AND STEEL

Sixth and Seventh Reports

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR (BANGALORE SOUTH): Sir, I beg to present the following Reports (Hindi and English versions) of the Standing Committee on Coal and Steel (2004-05) :-

Sixth Report on the Action Taken by the Government on the recommendations contained in the Third Report of the Standing Committee on Coal and Steel (2004-05) on Demands for Grants (2004-05) of the Ministry of Steel; and

Seventh Report on the Action Taken by the Government on the recommendations contained in the Forty Seventh Report of the Standing Committee on Energy (2004-Thirteenth Lok Sabha) on the subject “Safety in Coal Mines”.

14.11 hrs.

STATUTORY RESOLUTION RE : APPROVAL OF PROCLAMATION BY THE PRESIDENT IN RELATION TO THE STATE OF GOA

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, we will take up item number 22. Shri Shivraj V. Patil.

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): I beg to move:

“That this House approves the Proclamation issued by the President on the 4th March, 2005 under article 356 of the Constitution in relation to the State of Goa.”

Sir, article 356 provides that if the President is satisfied that a situation has arisen in which the Government of the State cannot be carried on in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution, the President may by Proclamation assume to himself functions of the Government of the State; declare that the powers of the Legislature of the State shall be exercised by the authority of the Parliament; and make such incidental and consequential provisions as are required.

The facts that led to the imposition of the President’s Rule in Goa are as follows. The Goa Legislative Assembly had 40 Members. Shri Manohar Parrikar was the Chief Minster with the backing of 22 Members, and 18 Members sat on the Opposition Benches. Four Members backing the Chief Minister resigned, thus reducing the strength of the House from 40 Members to 36 Members. The Chief Minister had 17 Members backing him with one of his supporters functioning as the Speaker of the House. The number of Members opposing him was 18.

The Opposition Members approached the Governor, and requested him to dismiss the Government of Shri Manohar Parrikar as he had lost the effective majority in the House. The Governor asked the Members to prove the veracity of their assertion on the floor of the House, and directed the Chief Minister to obtain the Vote of Confidence at 2.30 pm on 02 February 2005.

As per the report of the Governor, at about 5 pm on the said day, the Speaker announced that Shri Rodrigues, a Member of the House had committed a misconduct, and therefore, was liable for action under the provisions of Rule 289 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business of the Goa Legislative Assembly, and directed him to leave the House. Shri Rodrigues pleaded that he had not done anything to deserve the expulsion, and refused to leave the House. On finding that the Member was not leaving the House the Speaker directed the Marshall, and members of the Watch and Ward of the House to throw the Member out of the House. As the Marshall and members of the Watch and Ward were forcing the Member physically out of the House, other Members of the Opposition objected to the act of physical removal of the Member, and intervened.

When this was happening in the House, the Speaker put the Motion to the vote and declared that the Motion was carried by the vote of 18 Members and opposed by 6 Members. What had happened in the House was improper, illegal and unconstitutional. Eighteen Opposition Members approached the Governor and pleaded that the Government of Mr. Parrikar manipulated the majority and could not prove it, and so it should be dismissed. Coming to the conclusion that what was brought to his notice was correct, the Governor dismissed the Government. Then, he allowed Mr. Rane to be sworn in as the Chief Minister and asked him to prove his majority on the floor of the House within 30 days. This, the Governor said, was done to protect and preserve the democratic system and the constitutional provisions.

On 19th of February, 2005, the Governor summoned the Assembly to enable Mr. Rane to seek the Vote of Confidence on 28th of the same month. On 24th of February, 2005, Mr. Digambar V. Kamat, a member of the BJP, the Party of Mr. Parrikar, tendered his resignation from the membership of the House. On 28th of February, 2005, the day on which the Vote of Confidence was to be sought and just before it was to be done, the Speaker terminated the membership of Mr. Filipe Nery Rodrigues by allowing the petition for disqualification. Then, in the

House, at 2.30 p.m., he announced that he accepted the resignation of the Deputy-Speaker which was given to him and made a small speech and announced that he was also resigning from the Speakership and adjourned the House and then resigned. Thus, Mr. Rane was prevented from taking the Vote of Confidence. The resignation of Mr. Digambar V. Kamat of BJP and disqualification of Mr. Filipe Nery Rodrigues reduced the strength of the Government and the Opposition to 17 Members each.

In exercise of the powers vested under article 180(1) of the Constitution, the Governor administered the oath of office to Shri Francisco Sardinha on 28th of February evening to perform the duties of the Office of the Speaker, until the Speaker was chosen by the Assembly.

The Assembly of Goa was convened on 4th of March, 2005 at 2.30 p.m., for seeking the Vote of Confidence. The Speaker disqualified Mr. Matanhy Saldanha of UGDP, that is, Mr. Parrikar’s Party, reducing the effective strength of the Legislature to 33 and thereafter put the Motion of Confidence to vote. There was equality of votes with 16 in favour and 16 against. Therefore, the Speaker cast his vote in favour of the Government of Shri Pratapsingh Rane.

It was clear from these events that the State was going through a serious political instability. The disqualification of certain Members by both the Speakers was aimed at gaining political mileage and numbers by manipulation. The machinations adopted by both the coalitions had created serious doubts whether any coalition of political parties would be able to provide a stable Government. In the uncertainty thus prevailing in the State, there was a serious doubt whether the Assembly would be in a position to pass the Budget for the next financial year or even take a Vote-on-Account. Had that been allowed to happen, there would have been serious financial and constitutional crisis.

The Union Cabinet, therefore, in its meeting held on 4th of March, 2005, considered the situation prevailing in Goa and decided to recommend to the President to issue a Proclamation under article 356 of the Constitution for imposition of the President’s Rule in the State and keeping the State Legislative Assembly under suspended animation.

On 4th March, 2005, the President was pleased to issue a Proclamation under article 356(1) of the Constitution imposing President’s Rule in the State of Goa and keeping the Legislative Assembly of Goa in suspended animation.

With these words, I commend that the Proclamation issued on 4th of March, 2005 under article 356 of the Constitution in relation to the State of Goa be approved. A copy of the Proclamation, as stipulated under the Constitution, along with the consequential Order is placed on the Table of the House.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Motion moved :

“That this House approves the Proclamation issued by the President on the 4th March, 2005 under article 356 of the Constitution in relation to the State of Goa.”

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Hon. Member, please sit down.

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Nothing to be recorded except the speech of Shri L.K. Advani.

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Our concern has to be for ensuring political stability in the country.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Interruptions need not be recorded.

: Mr. Parrikar has been the longest serving Chief Minister of Goa.

SHRI ALEMAO CHURCHILL (MARMUGAO): Mr Speaker, Sir, the Goan people did not want dissolution. They wanted bye-elections. The circumstances that have led to the presentation of the Goa Budget in Lok Sabha need to be placed on record.

It was in June 2002 that the BJP-led Government, headed by Shri Manohar Parrikar, was formed in Goa through manipulative politics. It took the partners less than two years to realise that the Government was not working in public interest and, therefore, the UGDP and the MGP, as also an independent MLA ,withdrew support.

The BJP rule was so disgusting that for the first time in the history of the country, five MLAs from the ruling Party even resigned their seats, thus reducing the Government to a minority. Yet the BJP in Goa desperately clung to power and resorted to lies and disinformation.

The BJP then misused the Office of the Speaker to disqualify Shri Filipe Nery Rodrigues, an independent MLA, who was a Minister in their Government until a few days earlier.

The BJP filed a case by forging documents to show that Mr. Filipe Nery had joined the BJP in October, 2002. On the basis of the forged admission form, the Speaker disqualified Mr. Filipe Nery minutes before the Vote of Confidence was to be taken up. He immediately resigned from the post of Speaker on the ground that his fairness was being questioned. If that were indeed so, he ought to have resigned before passing orders on the disqualification petition. The shocking aspect of the said case is that if Mr. Filipe Nery had joined the BJP then the Speaker ought to have been informed and appropriate changes made in the composition of the House.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I will look into it.

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If anything has been said against the Speaker, that would not go on record.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR (BANGALORE SOUTH): Sir, I am on a point of order.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Under what rule you want to raise it?

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SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : I am referring to the rule only. They should have that much of patience. According to article 212, sub-Section (1) of the Constitution:

“The validity of any proceedings in the Legislature of the State shall not be called in question on the ground of any alleged irregularity of procedure.”

When this is the case, how can he refer to the Speaker? Therefore, that should be deleted.

MD. SALIM : Sir, he has not quoted any rule.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, the Rules of Procedure emanate from the Constitution of India.

SHRI ALEMAO CHURCHILL : Sir, he is no more the Speaker now. He has resigned.

However, for two years the BJP did not claim that the independent MLA had joined their party but only filed such a petition on forged documents after he had withdrawn the support.

Again, the UGDP had issued a whip to its MLA, Shri Matantry Saldanha to vote against the BJP. This whip was defied by the MLA. Consequently, a petition for disqualification was filed before the Speaker. The Speaker after hearing all the sides granted an interim stay withholding Shri Mathany Saldanha’s right to vote against the Party whip which order is in line with the directions of the Supreme Court in the Mayawati case.

We demand a special audit into the corruption in the conduct of the International Film Festival when Rs.150 crore were pocketed by Shri Parrikar through his contractor agents. The corruption, commissions and contractor raj run by the BJP and the RSS cadres in Goa must be exposed.

The fascist regime of Parrikar has fallen… (Interruptions)

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI BIJOY HANDIQUE): Sir, he cannot be interrupted at every stage like this… (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Nothing, except the speech of Shri Churchill, will go on record.

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SHRI ALEMAO CHURCHILL : Sir, his efforts to destroy the communal harmony and religious peace of the Goan society through his communal propaganda, especially the doctored tape on Goa’s liberation – which had to be shown in every school – exposed his criminal intentions. Citizens were harassed, opponents jailed, including three ex-Congress Ministers, cases were filed and a reign of terror prevailed under Parrikar.

He and the Speaker of the Assembly did not hesitate to bring in 21 plain-clothed policemen into the Goa assembly to drag out and injure the independent MLA, Mr. Philip Neri. The State of Goa, at last, has been liberated from Parrikar’s RSS regime. We thank God for it.

Sir, today the Budget of Goa is being presented and discussed in the Lok Sabha as the State Assembly has been placed under suspension. The BJP cannot be permitted to take advantage of its own misdoing. The Zila Panchayat elections

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in Goa have been completed three days back and the voters have clearly voted against the BJP and the party has been routed in the elections. The results show that the people of Goa desire that the suspension of the Assembly should be revoked and a popular Government be installed. The bye-elections to five seats in the Goa Assembly should be held immediately so that the will of the people could prevail. There is no reason why the holding of the bye-elections to these five seats should be delayed. The President’s Rule is no substitute for a popular rule in the State.

So, finally, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, on behalf of the people of Goa I demand that the bye-election to the five seats of the Goa Assembly should be held immediately and we want to show it to the people that this Government has done the right thing and that the earlier Government did all wrong things.

SHRI T.K. HAMZA (MANJERI): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I am not happy when I stand here to take part in the discussion on the promulgation of the President’s Rule in the State of Goa and also on the recent happenings in the State. Our Constitution is a great Constitution in comparison to the Constitution of other countries.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Do you want to read out your speech?

SHRI T.K. HAMZA : Sir, I am only looking at the points from this paper.

Sir, not only our Constitution is great, but our expectation from parliamentary democracy is also immense. Though the Governor is the custodian of the constitutional authority in the State, but in actual practice he acts on the advice of the Central Government. The State Government has no authority over the Central Government, but the Central Government is authorised to do many things in the States. The Governor acts on behalf of the Centre. Therefore, the Central Government is only responsible for all that has happened in the State. I can say from my experience that whichever party is ruling at the Centre, be it the Congress or the BJP, cannot tolerate a Government of a different party at the State. I am remembered of an incident where in the year 1959 the elected Government of the late E.M.S Namboodripad in Kerala was dismissed by the Central Government for no reason.

It followed the dismissals of many Governments. When the BJP also came to power in the Centre, they repeated the same process. Both are equal in that respect. We do not agree with applying article 356 indiscriminately. But in certain circumstances, it must be necessarily imposed. Now, the interference in Goa can be justified. The only point is, this action could have been taken much earlier. We could have avoided all the foul play we saw there. The BJP’s Parrikar Government in Goa lost its majority when the two MLAs, Mr. Filipe Rodrigues and Mr. Digambar Kamat left the party and withdrawn their support to the Government. Then the Governor acted constitutionally and dismissed the BJP Government. Even hon. Shri Vajpayee, in a Press Conference, demanded fresh polls in Goa. That itself shows that the majority is lost there. Otherwise, how can the BJP leader say that? When the majority is lost and when the Government cannot continue, what is the way out before the Governor? What is the next process? The Governor dismissed the Government and they say that they wanted to have an election. But the next constitutional liability on the part of the Governor is to invite the Opposition Leader to try to form a Government. And that was done in Goa. Accordingly, Shri Rane formed the Government there. On the day fixed for the Confidence Motion in the House, the trouble started. It was he who had done it, the Speaker, Shri Vishwas Satarkar. He declared in the House that the Member, Mr. Rodrigues was disqualified and informed that another Member, Mr. Kamat had already resigned as MLA of the House. The House adjourned for afternoon for taking up the Confidence Motion.

When the House convened in the afternoon to take up the Confidence Motion, the Speaker again declared that he himself and the Deputy Speaker had resigned their respective posts. That created a constitutional deadlock in the State. What will the Governor do then? The Speaker Deputy-Speaker resigned and the House was adjourned without mentioning any date. Therefore, there was no other way and the Governor had to take action in that matter. The House may see that Mr. Rodrigues was elected as an independent candidate and joined the BJP. Then and there, action could have been taken for defection. Nobody initiated action at that time. When he left the BJP, they demanded action for defection. Now the question comes of double standard. Likewise, there is every right for a Member to resign from his membership as per the Constitution. Thus, Mr. Kamat had resigned. What is the difficulty there? He has resigned his post and he said that he will not sit in the House without another election being held. Anyway, it is true that Mr. Rodrigues and Mr. Kamat left the BJP and the Government lost its majority. If they left the BJP and joined the Congress with ulterior motives and to facilitate Shri Rane to form the Government, then it is not correct.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You are mentioning names of two persons who are not present in the House.

SHRI T.K. HAMZA : Even then, Mr. Rane could not get the majority as the Chief Minister. Even then he did not form the majority. He won the game only by a penalty goal, that is, by a casting vote of Pro-tem Speaker. Whether the Pro-tem Speaker has got the right to exercise a casting vote or not is a question to be debated and decided further.

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Finally the Central Government took the correct step in the matter and imposed President”’’s rule in the State for which I congratulate the Government of India. I support the Goa Budget which has been presented today.

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MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is not to be recorded. Nothing will go on record except what Shri Devendra Prasad Yadav says.

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MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Once the Speaker, always the Speaker.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is not to be recorded.

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Whatever Shri Lalu Prasad has said is not to be recorded.

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SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN (BALASORE): Sir, I am very happy that the maturity of the democratic process in India is deepening. Is it not a very excellent thing in India that even if a Party which supposedly owned the majority in a State Assembly was dismissed by its own Government which is at the Centre? That is why I say that the democratic process is deepening. It happened only because of the developments and because of the pressure from the people of this country.

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When the Central Government came to know that everybody–the people of this country, the media, the intelligentsia—is against it, against the process, and when they came to know that even the names of their leaders are being tarnished because of this, they were compelled to dismiss their own Government. Hats off to democracy. Hats off to the people of this country. That is why, I say that the democratic process is deepening.

What happened in Goa was a virtual political terrorism, totally hijacking the Government process, that is, the democratic process. Two of the hon. Members raised points like this that in Goa the BJP Government was formed by manipulation and the BJP rule was disgusting.

They say that it was a fascist regime but it could be said against anybody. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN : Nothing will go on record except what Mr. Kharabela Swain says.

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SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : That is why our hon. Leader of the Opposition Shri Advani has been demanding and our party has been demanding that the moment the proclamation is approved in both the Houses of Parliament, let us go to the people. He has talked about the people and about going to the people. Let us go to the people and see what they say. They are our masters. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go on record.

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SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN: Secondly, there are very cunning people in our country. When they change parties, they say that they have changed parties because of ideological reasons; when somebody else changes parties, they say that it is because of self-interest. They say that in Goa the BJP Government went against the culture. Why did they change the names given by the Portuguese people? I would give you an example to explain this.

The hon. Members from the Left parties are sitting here.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please address the Chair.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : Sir, I am looking in that direction but addressing you!

We have hon. Members here from the Left, who are from Kolkata. From my childhood, I was brought up in Kolkata. There was a place called Dalhousie Square. It is a very famous name. What is its name now? Its new name is Binay Badal Dinesh Bag. The new name of Hastings Street is Ram Mohun Roy Sarani. So, could we say that the Left Government in West Bengal is against the Christian culture? There was a colonial rule. When there was colonial rule, the British had named these places after their own people. So, should we not change those names when we come to power? When we do that, we are castigated and told that we are communal and against the culture. How can they say so? What the BJP has done

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in Goa has been done for the cause of this country and for the pride of this country. … (Interruptions) If they say that names have not been changed in Kolkata, it means they are in favour of the imperialists. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Swain, look at this side.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : I am looking at you, Sir. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go on record.

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Churchill, you have already spoken. Please sit down.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : Sir, he has spoken twice and I did not utter even a single word.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please continue, Mr. Swain.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : What happened in Goa was pre-planned. As our hon. Leader of the Opposition said some time ago, if you ask somebody to resign his Membership and offer to make him a Minister instead, there would be many people rushing to do that. After all, they are not losing any thing and they could win the seat through a bye-election. That is exactly what has happened in Goa. … (Interruptions)

SHRI ALEMAO CHURCHILL (MARMUGAO): Sir, not only Members but Ministers have also resigned. He is misleading the House. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Churchill, you have already spoken. Please sit down.

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go on record except the speech of Mr. Swain.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : The anti-defection law was subverted there deliberately. There was a time when in the North-East Members would en bloc change party affiliations.

Thirty people from this side were going to that side and all of them were becoming Ministers. Even in one of the States, out of the entire number of 40 MLAs, 38 were Ministers. … (Interruptions)

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MR. CHAIRMAN : Please sit down.

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SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : Sir, they are not allowing me to speak. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: I am constrained to say that when the hon. Member from the other side will speak, he can repudiate the charges that he is making. So, please sit down.

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Alemao Churchil, you have already spoken.

Nothing will go on record except what Shri Kharabela Swain says.

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SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : Kunwar Manvendra Singh, I am not going to sit down. You must have understood me by now. … (Interruptions)

I am not going to sit down. … (Interruptions)

Now, I was talking about the North-East. That is why, when the NDA Government was in power, they changed the law. They brought in the Anti-Defection Law. Somebody may say that it was wrong. But we have fixed as to how many Members can become Ministers. It was 15 per cent. That was a great disincentive for the people to cross sides. This is not happening nowadays because they have to resign. But once they face the election and they are defeated by their own people, nobody will dare to do it – resign in future. This is going to happen.

Now, let us come to the role of the Governor. I am not just naming anybody. Now, as per the Governor … (Interruptions) I am not mentioning anybody. I am raising a constitutional point. There is a provision that at the pleasure of the Governor, the Chief Minister and the Council of Ministers will be appointed. Somebody could be appointed a Chief Minister or a Minister for six months without facing an election. So, what I mean to say is – does the pleasure of the Governor mean that he can appoint his*……..*

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as the Chief Minister also? This is a constitutional point. Can he do so? Is it the pleasure of the Government to appoint anybody? … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Unless the person is elected how can he appoint that person?

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SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : Sir, as you know, that somebody without being elected to any of the House can be appointed. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do not enter into controversy.

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SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : If I do not enter into controversy, then what will I say? … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go on record except the speech of Shri Kharabela Swain.

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SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : Sir, you must protect me. I cannot be directed by them to speak. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: That word will be expunged.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : But can the Governor appoint anybody? … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Alemao Churchil, I am very sorry. You had your say. So, please do not disturb.

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SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : Now, the question is being raised because the hon. Speaker of the Goa Assembly had committed some mistake in the House, that is why the Governor was constrained to dismiss Parrikar’s Government. My question is: is the Governor a court of appeal against the functioning of the Speaker in the House.

Let me give you one example. Everybody knows that late Prime Minister, Shrimati Indira Gandhi, was assassinated by her own bodyguards. Many people hade seen it with their own eyes. But did we hang those murderers on the next

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day? There is a due process of law. There are very prominent advocates and lawyers of this country sitting on that side. Should we not go by the due process of law? Should the Governor not summon the Speaker of the House? Should he not ask for the report from him before he takes any decision? But exactly that was not done. How is it that a Governor hardly gives less than 48 hours to the incumbent Chief Minister to prove the majority whereas he is giving 30 days to some other person?

That actually shows that ‘because I am in power, might is right; because I am in power, I can do anything and everything. There is no convention, there is no due process of law because ‘I am the Governor, I am in power and I can do anything.’ That is exactly what is being told by the hon. Member from the other side.

You take the example of the Speaker. They say that actually he prevented a Member of the House from casting his vote. I do not appreciate his action. I say it. I do not appreciate what the Speaker did at that time. Probably, had I been the Speaker, I would not have done the same thing. But my point is, even if the Member was not prevented from voting, even if he would have voted, still the number of the Congress and its allies would have been 18 and the number of the ruling Party, that means the BJP-led coalition would have also been 18 including the Speaker.

Hon. Minister Shri Kapil Sibal, a prominent lawyer from that side was saying that even if somebody becomes a Speaker and he sits on the Chair, he does not leave his Party affiliation because again he will have to seek the ticket from the same Party and he will have to contest the election and it becomes very difficult on his part to give a ruling against his own Party.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Shri Swain, please conclude.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : Sir, you will have to give me some more time. A lot of time was consumed by others.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Other speakers are there from your Party.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : There is only one Member from our side to speak, not many.

MR. CHAIRMAN : You have already taken 14 minutes.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : Sir, the ruling party must have its way, but the Opposition must have its say. Besides speaking what else can we do?

MR. CHAIRMAN : I am giving you time. I had given you 14 minutes. You please conclude in another 3-4 minutes.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : Sir, most of the time was consumed by bickering from the other side.

MR. CHAIRMAN : You conclude in another 3-4 minutes.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN (BALASORE): Yes, sir.

Because there was a technical difficulty with the Parrikar Government, because they were having one of their supporters sitting in the Speaker’s chair, that is why you say that they are in minority. How can you say that? It is not so. They were not in a minority. There was a tie. The maximum you can say is that there was a tie. But we will have to just find out what did the Pro-tem Speaker do? Does the Pro-tem Speaker have the power or have the capacity to disqualify somebody from the House? Could he take such a very serious decision?

The pleasure of the Governor should not be arbitrary. It cannot be arbitrary. In the landmark judgement in Bommai case, the Supreme Court has already given instructions as to how the floor test should be conducted. My point is that the election of the Chief Minister should be done in the House. This is my suggestion. It should not be done in the Raj Bhavan. The Governor should not arbitrarily decide who should be or who should not be the Chief Minister.

How do we elect the Speaker in this House? The same process should be adopted to elect the Prime Minister here and to elect the Chief Minister in the Assembly. I can give you one example. In 1995, the Supreme Court had given a judgement when Shri Kalyan Singh’s Government in U.P. was removed and Shri Jagadambika Prasad Pal was appointed as the Chief Minister. What did the Supreme Court say at that time? They said – you take a composite voting. That means two names will be presented before the House and the Members of the House will decide who is going to be the Chief Minister.

Hon. Minister of Home Affairs is here. He is a prominent lawyer of this country. He should consider this thing as to whether we could have a system so that we could keep the Governor away from this.

When the Constitution-makers were deliberating in the Constituent Assembly, they did not want that there should be an elected Governor because they thought that if there was an elected Governor, he would usurp the power of the elected Chief Minister. That is why, they did not want that; they wanted that the Governor should be nominated; and they wanted that the Governor should not enter into this sort of politicking. So, my suggestion is that now the Chief Minister or the Prime Minister should be elected in the House and the pro tem Speaker for his election could be a neutral person. Even you can approach the Election Commission to have somebody who will not have the power to vote because once somebody becomes the Speaker and pro tem Speaker, he is unable to vote. Let him be allowed to vote also. Let there be a neutral person who should conduct it. His only job will be to elect the Chief Minister or the Prime Minister of this country.

Sir, I will just come to another suggestion. With regard to floor test, some conventions have already been set and some instructions have been given by the Supreme Court about how the floor test should be conducted. In Great Britain, they do not have any Constitution; they have only conventions. They do not have any written Constitution. In the United States of America, they are having only seven clauses in their Constitution. Then, what is the Constitution in those countries? The Constitution is what the Supreme Court says it to be. There, the Supreme Court, from time to time, in its judicial review, has interpreted what is

Constitution. That is exactly what our Supreme Court is also doing. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN : He is concluding.

SHRI RAM KRIPAL YADAV : Sir, he is not concluding.… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Swain, please look at the Chair.

(Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: This will not go on record.

(Interruptions)* …

MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Swain, please look at the Chair.

… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go on record except the speech of Shri Swain.

(Interruptions)* …

MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Swain, please look at the Chair.

… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: This will not go on record.

(Interruptions)* …

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do not talk to him directly.

… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Swain, please look at the Chair.

… (Interruptions)

* Not Recorded.

Sir, the last point I would like to say is that Raj Bhawan test should be abolished because most of the time, it is arbitrary and corrupt. Under normal circumstances, it is not part of the Governor”’’s constitutional function to entertain petitions that the Chief Minister has lost majority. If somebody approaches him during the time Assembly is in Session, he should ask him to have a No Confidence Motion against the Chief Minister. When somebody comes to him during the time when the Assembly is not in Session, the Governor must ask the complainant to take No Confidence Motion when the House is in Session, noting that the Constitution allows a gap of six months”” time between two Sessions.

The Assembly should not be recalled — during the inter-session — at the instance of a political contender. He should not be allowed to force the Governor to summon the Assembly Session, as and when he requires. If the complainant informally informs him that he has lost his majority, it is for the Chief Minister to decide whether the expensive process of recalling the Assembly is necessary in such a situation.

Last but not least I would like to ask two questions. Why is it that the Governors start behaving in a very irrational manner when the Congress Party comes to power? They did the same thing with Shri Mulayam Singh’s Government when he was in power. They had to give their floor-test twice.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude your speech.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : Shri Namboodripad’s Government was also dismissed without any reason. The same thing has happened to Shri Kalyan Singh’s Government also. Why does it happen when only Congress comes to power?

Lastly, I will appeal that the Governor of Goa, and of Jharkhand should be recalled. Once this proclamation is passed in both the Houses, the Goa Assembly should be dissolved and fresh election should be held.

SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL (CHANDIGARH): Mr. Chairman, Sir, the hon. Leader of the Opposition while initiating the debate had said that he did not wish to apportion blame. But all that we have heard from the other side is only blaming the others for the entire imbroglio.

I, certainly, do not want to refer to the proclivity, the tendency, the wont, or rather the expertise of Shri Parrikar in engineering defections in the past, but I am constrained to do so for the simple reason that a repeated reference has been made to the undesirable practice of defections. We also had to bring about the Anti-Defection Law to deal with defections in the form of the 10th Schedule to the Constitution.

I have always respected Shri L. K. Advani. Today also, like many other occasions, he referred to the fact that the Anti-Defection Law had been misused in the past. He said that through the 91st Amendment, if I am correct, a novel way has been found out and by innuendo he was blaming us for the same, he said that a way has been found out to circumvent, and circumnavigate the Constitutional Amendment by bringing about resignation of Members.

Sir, Shri L. K. Advani is not present here at the moment. I only wish to point out to him that the first time — if I am mistaken I may please be corrected — this law was circumnavigated — I am using the word circumnavigated — through the device of resignations in Goa, and it was by none other than Shri Parrikar himself. If you are not clear about the dates, I can remind you about the same. It was in August 2004, when one Congress Member was made to resign and then was given the BJP ticket. What was the need for doing it?

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MR. CHAIRMAN : Your name is in the list. When your name is called, you can speak then.

… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Churchill, please sit down.

CHAIRMAN : Please do not take names.

- Recall the Governor. For what? He performed a duty. At that time, he rightly felt that democracy was being murdered in the State and, therefore, he acted.

16.00 hrs.

Sir, a prominent, important, well-known journalist of the country then said, “Shri Parrikar cannibalized politics by poaching on the members of the parties who extended support to him.” +É{ÉxÉä ºÉÉlÉ ãÉÉäMÉÉå BÉEÉä ãÉMÉÉ+ÉÉä, ÉÊ{ÉE® =xcå JÉÉ VÉÉ+ÉÉä* {ÉcãÉä {ÉÉ]ÉÔVÉ BÉEÉä ºÉÉlÉ ãÉMÉÉ+ÉÉä,

Not based on any faith and trust.

SHRI B. MAHTAB (CUTTACK): Congress never does that! What happened in Bihar?

SHRI SURAVARAM SUDHAKAR REDDY (NALGONDA): Hon. Chairman, Sir, I feel, today this discussion is not only on the subject of Proclamation of President”’’s Rule in Goa, it is becoming a discussion on parliamentary democracy and its way of getting implemented in different places in our country. Now, we are discussing about the standards, morals and values of parliamentary democracy. I think, it will be good and useful also. What happened in Goa is a sad commentary on the parliamentary democracy. I was listening very carefully to the statement of our hon. Home Minister, Shri Shivraj Patilji and also very carefully listened to our Opposition Leader”’’s speech. Unfortunately, the Proclamation is to be supported by everybody. We have no other go. Even Opposition is also supporting it. I think, in this House, nobody who will oppose the President”’’s Proclamation. But what happened in Goa is very unfortunate. I do not want to go into the details because everybody knows it and everybody has got his own way of interpreting the developments that have taken place in Goa.

We have an anti-defection law. Earlier, we did not have this type of law. Even the Congress Party had two-thirds majority in Parliament. They felt that it was necessary to bring an anti-defection law but at that time one-third of the Members had to go out if they had to get out of the Party. Later, an amendment was moved. Now, if anyone wants to defect, he will lose his membership or he has to bypass the membership of his Party. This type of provision is in vogue in the Constitution. In Goa, some of the legislators have taken the course of resigning from the Assembly. As such, nobody can say that it was wrong to resign.

We all knew what happened inside the House, what happened inside the Raj Bhavan. This type of horse-trading to snatch the power from one party to another is the most unfortunate thing. This is not the first time. The crisis in Goa is not sudden. Several times, when there was a change in the power at the Central level, there were always tremors in North-Eastern States. We have seen that defections will take place suddenly and the Governments will get changed.

I remember, there was a State in the North-East, Manipur, where there were only two Members in one political party which was the constituent of the National Democratic Alliance. A massive defection took place and the Government was installed in Manipur. In the next elections, there was no trace of that political party. What is the use of this type of defections? Now, everybody is talking that the parliamentary democracy should be restored. But, I blame both the Congress and the Bhartiya Janata Party for all this. These two parties are mainly responsible for whatever happened in this country in the recent past. My friend Shri Swain has very effectively put his point. I congratulate him for that.… (Interruptions) Please bear with me. I do understand that you do not like the criticism. But, you have to bear with me.

Regarding the role of independents and all that, recently there were elections in Jharkhand State. Both the Congress and the BJP fought with their allies on all the seats. They tried to defeat each other. Suddenly, five independent Members who fought against the BJP became good friends and they took oath as Ministers. Yesterday, the BJP tried to defeat these five independents and today they are all Ministers. What is this type of double standard? What is the way of asking us that the standards of democracy are to be defended? This way, democracy cannot be defended.

The major political parties should accept the established norms in this country. Unfortunately, the most important institutions like that of the Speaker and the Governor are being misused. It is not for the first time that we are discussing it here. We have discussed such issues several times. The first time it started in 1959 in Kerala when the EMS Namboodripad Government was dismissed utilising the Governorship. I think, there was only one instance when a Governor was recalled or asked to resign. In Andhra Pradesh, when the NTR Government was dismissed unconstitutionally and undemocratically, the Governor was asked to resign and go out. That was good and that helped restoration of democracy in the State. It has given a good signal to the democratic activities throughout the country. Now, what happened in Goa is that serious injuries were inflicted on democracy. This type of

thing should not be allowed. I think, the Congress Party should have been more careful. They were in a hurry to snatch the power.… (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record.

(Interruptions)* …

SHRI SURAVARAM SUDHAKAR REDDY : In the last elections, the BJP had no majority. Since they were in the Union Government, they could manoeuvre it successfully. Some independents were brought in and they formed the Government. Some of them resigned. Had the Congress Party been more careful, it would have been more useful for them.

But they tried to snatch power at the earliest. … (Interruptions) They have to take the lessons from the history. These types of things should not be repeated.

What happened in Goa did not enhance the image of the Congress party. It has really created more problems for them, though at the end, the parliamentary democracy is being defended, at least, with Proclamation now.

Sir, I would like to say that in Telugu, there is a proverb that ‘all are vegetarians but the basket of the fish disappeared’.… (Interruptions) Here, everybody is saying that democracy should be defended, but what role each party has played in defending the democracy?

I believe, Sir, politics is the most holy profession in our country or in the whole of the world. But unfortunately, people are losing confidence in the democratic institutions, particularly in political parties. We should all think and review our activities. More moral standards and values should be restored. The parliamentary democracy should have its own respect. Governors, Speakers should all play their due role. Unfortunately, in the last few weeks what was happening in the Parliament, we have all seen. We are seeing in the newspapers

* Not Recorded.

that one political party is trying to give mandate to the Speakers in the States being ruled by their party not to attend the meeting called by the hon. Speaker, Lok Sabha. Once a Speaker goes out into that position, he is no more supposed to be under the mandate of any political party. You can advise your Speaker with your political ideas to go and argue and oppose any particular move, but trying to control, trying to use the mandates or political affiliations and other things, will damage everybody.… (Interruptions) Everybody knows, it is the Bhartiya Janata Party, which is said to have given the mandate to its Speakers in the States not to attend the meeting called by the hon. Speaker, Lok Sabha.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Please conclude now.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI SURAVARAM SUDHAKAR REDDY : Please do not irritate me. I would try to be careful… (Interruptions) I never interrupted you… (Interruptions)

Sir, I feel, now the Proclamation of the President’s Rule in Goa is inevitable. But keeping the Goa Assembly under suspended animation is of no use. The Legislature of Goa has lost its credibility. It does not anymore represent the will of the people of Goa, and it should go. Let them go to the people and let the fresh elections be organised there.

But at the same time, I would like to appeal that taking the lessons from Goa, taking the lessons from Jharkhand, we should be very careful, what is to take place in the House. The role of the Speaker is being snatched by the Governors at some places, and the role of the Governors is being snatched by the courts. The intervention like this will not only tarnish the image of the parliamentary democracy, it will also create very serious conflict between the Legislature, the Executive and the Judiciary. These types of things should not happen.

While supporting the Proclamation of the President’s Rule in Goa, I would like to appeal to the Union Government to think of dissolving the Goa Assembly and go in for fresh elections there.

It can go only for judicial scrutiny. No intervention is required in the Speaker”’’s decision. Nobody can term his decision as mala fide. Court can only intervene and properly scrutinise whether the decision of the Speaker is correct or wrong.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR (BANGALORE SOUTH): Sir, I rise to support the Resolution regarding Proclamation for imposing President’s Rule in Goa with the hope that the Government will also dissolve the Assembly and pave way for fresh elections. ¤ÉÉ®c ºÉÉãÉ àÉå MªÉÉ®c àÉÖJªÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ +ÉÉè® iÉÉÒxÉ ÉÊnxÉ àÉå iÉÉÒxÉ àÉÖJªÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ, ªÉc MÉÉä´ÉÉ BÉEÉ ÉÊBÉEººÉÉ cè*

In 1994, first Mr. Wilfred D’Souza became the Chief Minister of Goa. The next day, Mr. Ravi Nayak became the Chief Minister and on the third day, again Mr. D’Souza became the Chief Minister. All this was happening even when the Congress was having majority. At that time, they called back the then Governor.

Sir, the hon. Home Minister made a statement regarding the recent political happenings in Goa. I would like to tell him that he needed to state some more facts before this House. I want to raise those facts here.

Goa is a story of political conspiracy to destabilise the Government. Before the UPA Government came to power at the Centre, the Government in Goa, under the leadership of Shri Manohar Parrikar, was stable and was providing very good governance. As soon as the UPA Government took over, they changed the Governors of the States, especially, the hon. Governor of Goa was changed, rather I would say removed on the ground that he belonged to a different ideology.

SHRI ALEMAO CHURCHILL : Would you please explain the ideology?

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : I would definitely explain that.

Sir, when the hon. Home Minister would reply to the debate on this proclamation of President’s Rule in the State, I would like to request him to kindly explain as to what provisions of the Constitution of India empower the Union Government to make ideology a criterion for choosing and nominating Governors of States.

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): Sir, why is he raising this issue now? I have explained this when we discussed about the removal of Governors and the role of the Government on the floor of the House. I did say that this is not the criterion on which Governors are removed.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, both, in this House and outside the Government has said, the leaders of the UPA have said that because they belonged to a different ideology, the Governors have been removed… (Interruptions)

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: I have not said that. I am not responsible for this kind of a statement which is brought to your notice because I have not said it.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : The leaders of the UPA have said it… (Interruptions) If you want to read it, you can read it… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN : The hon. Home Minister was on his legs and he has rightly pointed out the facts and Shri Churchill, you should not now come in between this.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, I would also like to request you that you have given ample opportunity to Shri Churchill to have his say and so while other Members are speaking, he should exercise restraint… (Interruptions)

SHRI ALEMAO CHURCHILL : When I was talking, you also disturbed me… (Interruptions)

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : We never disturbed you… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing, except the speech of Shri Ananth Kumar, will go on record.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, the hon. Governor of Goa was changed saying that he belonged to RSS ideology and because he was inspired by RSS ideology.

Sir, I would like to place on record that the former Prime Minister of India, the former Deputy-Prime Minister of India – all belonged to the RSS ideology * …

MD. SALIM (CALCUTTA – NORTH EAST): Sir, he cannot claim that … He is holding a Constitutional position… (Interruptions)

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, why is Shri Salim coming to his defence?… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Ananth Kumar, you are a very senior Member. You know the rules of the House. You should not refer to persons who are holding Constitutional positions in the country. Please do not refer to them.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, getting inspired by the ideology of RSS of selfless service and patriotism is not a taboo for holding a position. I think the entire conspiracy started from there… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: I am sorry Shri Ananath Kumar, this will not go on record. References to persons holding high offices in the country will not go on record.

… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: I am sorry. He is a very senior Member of this House and he knows everything. I need not tell him these things. Please have restraint.

… (Interruptions)

* Not Recorded.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Therefore, in the entire conspiracy, changing the Governor was Stage-I. And Stage-II was using resignation as a new device of defection. My dear colleague, Mr. Pawan Kumar Bansal said that Mr. Manohar Parrikar started the resignation issue. I want to place the facts straight. Mr. Egidero Fernandes resigned in 2004. He had resigned on his own volition. Later, he contested on BJP ticket and won the Assembly seat. He never became a Minister soon after he resigned. … (Interruptions)

SHRI ALEMAO CHURCHILL : He had shown him the way.… (Interruptions)

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Then we were enjoying the majority also. … (Interruptions)

SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL : When you talk of public perception or what the public says, media covered exactly that way. I do not want to use those words. It was said that Goa has earned a dubious distinction under Mr. Parrikar of circumnavigating the 91st Amendment.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : There was no circumnavigation because after resigning, Mr. Egidero Fernandes was not made the Minister. He contested election on BJP ticket..… (Interruptions) The MLAs who resigned and became Ministers should also have contested..… (Interruptions) Sir, through you, I appeal to the hon. Home Minister that the NDA Government, under the leadership of Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee brought this amendment to the Constitution to prevent horse-trading and aya Rams and gaya Rams. In the anti-defection law, there are some loopholes. Therefore, I request the Government to plug those loopholes. If anybody resigns, then he should not be accepting the post within six months or within a year. Some such precautionary clause or safeguard has to be instituted.

Stage-III of the conspiracy which the hon. Home Minster did not mention was the way the vote of confidence was done.

MR. CHAIRMAN: How long will you take to conclude?

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : I need ten more minutes as I have just started.

MR. CHAIRMAN: I am sorry. You have already taken ten minutes and there is no time for your Party.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : There were interruptions also.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude in two or three minutes.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : The Governor exhibited double standard in conducting the Vote of Confidence. He gave 48 hours to Mr. Manohar Parrikar. Whereas, he gave one month to Mr. Pratap Singh Rane. I do not understand this point. Though Speaker’s role cannot be debated constitutionally, outside the purview of this House, it can be debated. But the point is, the Governor of Goa dismissed Parrikar’s Government without even waiting for the Speaker’s report. How far is Vidhan Sabha from Raj Bhavan? It is only five kilometres away. Mr. Churchill knows that it is only five kilometres away. … (Interruptions) What had happened at 5 o’clock in Vidhan Sabha? At 5.24 p.m., the Assembly was adjourned and at 5.30 p.m., that means, in six minutes, the Government was dismissed. Therefore, through you Sir, I want to ask the Home Minister as to whether the Speaker had sent a report to the Governor or not and why the Government had acted in such a post haste manner to dismiss Parrikar’s Government.

He could have waited for the report to come and then he could have dismissed the Government. He could have dismissed the Government after two hours or so, heavens would not have fallen.

After the dismissal of the Government, at 11.30 a.m. we come to stage five of the conspiracy, that is the swearing-in ceremony. The swearing-in ceremony was held at 11.30 a.m. After the swearing-in ceremony, again a question of constitutional propriety comes into play. We have the recommendations of the

Sarkaria Commission and we have the landmark judgement in the S.R. Bommai case. Why was not a date fixed for the Vote of Confidence as soon as Mr. Pratapsingh Rane was invited to take oath? The Governor should have indicated that within a timeframe, say within two weeks or a fortnight or three weeks — as he had fixed a time limit of 48 hours for Mr. Manohar Parrikar — Mr. Rane should prove his majority in the Assembly. But no such time frame was fixed.

When the hon. Governor came out to address the Press conference, the media asked him about this, but he was evasive. For three days there were rumours that Governor did not fix a clear date for the Vote of Confidence. Afterwards, he gave one month”’’s time to Mr. Pratap Singh Rane, whereas he gave only 48 hours to Mr. Manohar Parrikar.

Then, I come to the question of suspended MLA, Mr. Filipe Nery. I would like to know whether he approached the court of law. Why has he not approached the court of law till now? If his suspension is illegal, he should have gone to the court. Till Mr. Digambar Kamat was made to resign, the Governor did not convene the Assembly. Why was there a delay in convening the Assembly? After this, through the pro tem Speaker, an hon. MLA was prevented from voting and he was disqualified.

After all this happened, the hon. Prime Minister and the hon. Home Minister entered the scene. I want to bring to your kind notice that as the Governor did not wait for the report from the Speaker, the hon. Home Minister did not wait to get the report from the Governor. Without getting the report from the Governor, he dismissed the Government. The Governor did not wait for the report of the Speaker and the hon. Home Minister and the Government of India did not wait for the report of the Governor. What is happening? But we congratulate and welcome the decision to dismiss that Government.

Our only request is that the suspended animation of the Assembly should not continue because there is no chance or hope now for any party. The suspended animation of the Assembly should come to an end now. They should dissolve the House.

I hope while giving the reply, the hon. Home Minister will assure this august House that he will dissolve the Goa Assembly and go to the people to get a fresh mandate. Justice should be done.

I once again request, through you, the hon. Home Minister that he should reply to whatever points that I have raised here, from changing the Governor to not taking the report of the Speaker before the dismissal of the Manohar Parrikar Government. They should form part of his reply. At least now he should amend his statement and add them to his reply. He should dissolve the Assembly and allow the people”’’s mandate to reign there.

SHRI L. RAJAGOPAL (VIJAYAWADA): Sir, I thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to speak on this subject.

In fact, yesterday I had the opportunity of making my maiden speech. Unfortunately, the hon. Deputy-Speaker was not aware that it was my maiden speech and he gave only three minutes to me to speak. The moment he pressed the buzzer, as a disciplined, obedient school boy, I just sat down. That is why, today, my party chose me and requested me to speak on this very important topic.

Now, I will speak about the different dimensions of it. Of course, most of the topics have been covered, most of the issues have been covered. We have always to remember that the mind is a parachute which works only when it is kept open. When I say it is kept open, we need to have a broad-minded approach so that we will understand what is right and what is wrong, what is dharma and what is adharma. The reason why I am saying is that today, a lot of people think that development means when we widen the roads and streets. But the most important thing in development is that we need to widen our minds and we should have a broad-minded approach. We should have a very good Imann, very good mind and a very good heart.

This is the modern age. We are talking about the gender-sensitive Budgets. We are talking about how to empower women, how to make women independent like Indira ji was, like Sonia ji is. In 1989, the late Shri Rajiv Gandhi was the first one who brought about the DWACRA or the Self-Help Groups because he wanted every woman in India to be an iron woman like Indira ji. But what are we witnessing? We are trying to glorify the burning of women in the name of Sati. When did it happen? It happened in the stone-age. We have moved from the stone age to this modern age but still there are certain parties which are trying to glorify Sati and trying to build temples. They are not thinking about Bharat Nirman. Is this what we are here for in this House? I feel ashamed that we are here to do that work today.

I will come to the main issue about why Goa is under President’s Rule, why President’s Rule in Goa was promulgated. What is the reason? The people of Goa, especially the MLAs, especially the four or five Ministers who had resigned, understood what the people are thinking, what is the mind of the people, what they have wanted. That is the reason why they decided about it.… (Interruptions) They consciously told them that we cannot continue with this Government which is a narrow-minded Government, which is being headed by a narrow-minded party and hence we need to resign. Their conscious told them and they resigned. They are Ministers and they are not MLAs. They have not resigned for money or power but they have resigned just because they did not believe in the ideology of the then Government in Goa.

When it comes to Goa, I remember my childhood days. The first time that I visited Goa in 1974 was when I was ten years old. I looked at Goa in a different way in 1974. The next time I visited Goa in 1984 as a teenager. At that time, I saw Goa in a different perspective, in a different angle. The third time that I went to Goa was in the year 2002, when, I think, the Manohar Parikkar Government had just been sworn. During October-November, I visited Goa with my kids. I saw Goa in a different perspective. Today, I have the opportunity of talking about Goa, about the Proclamation of President’s Rule in Goa. I am happy to talk about Goa because I love Goa. It is a magnificent place, it has magnificent beaches and wonderful places. Goa is a gateway to our tourism. In fact, I am quite appalled and unhappy that such a State ultimately came to be ruled by a fascist and narrow-minded Government. It is not because of people’s mandate, not because of majority that they came to power. Like our friend Shri Churchill has said, they came to power by using money and muscle power that they had then.

I would also like to quote one thing the respected Opposition leader has said about. He was quoting about a cartoon which appeared in the Times of India. Two days back, I also saw a cartoon. Then, I remembered what was told in Gujarat, what was told in Delhi and what was told in Washington by the then Prime Minister. The point is that there was no consistency in that. I would like to recollect what the cartoon of the Times of India had brought out two days back. There is a person who is reading a newspaper and the cartoon says that this person is a very precise and a proper person.

He is checking his speech that he made in a different meeting yesterday because he does not want to contradict what he said then. So, there is consistency. He is checking his speech to understand whether he is consistent and he wants to know what he spoke yesterday. This is not the behaviour or the culture of the Congress Party or the UPA Government. Today, if we look at what happened in Goa and what the Governor of Goa did, we can see that he has been consistent in January as well as on 3rd February when he asked the Chief Minister to prove his majority in the House.

16.51 hrs.         (Shri Varkala Radhakrishnan in the Chair)

At that time, one of the MLAs was disqualified. Immediately, the Governor dismissed that Government and gave an opportunity to some person who happened to be from the Congress Party. What happened when the Congress Chief Minister faced the trial of strength? The Speaker disqualified one of the MLAs at that time also. So, the Governor has been consistent with his actions. He felt that you cannot disqualify Members and try to prove majority in the House. What I am trying to say is, this Government and the Governor have been consistent in their approach. So, we cannot blame them. The reason for the resignation of Ministers then has been demonstrated recently, because in the local body elections held there, out of 50 seats, the Congress Party has won 45 of them. So, you can understand as to what is the mandate of the people.

Sir, I would like to recollect certain other instances when democracy has been hijacked, has been taken as a hostage and has been murdered. Apart from what has happened in Jharkhand recently, there was an instance in Andhra Pradesh also and at that time, in 1995, the then Chief Minister did not even get a chance to prove his majority on the floor of the House. The reason for that was, all the MLAs have been taken as hostages and they were put up in a hotel. That particular Chief Minister and his party happens to be a constituent of the NDA.

What are we witnessing in Jharkhand now? We have seen how five MLAs have been taken as hostages. All of them have been made as Ministers. Is this not trying to bribe them with ministership? Is taking them as hostages not a shameful act? I would like to ask them this question. Of course, my friend here said that we need to devise some method or pass some sort of a legislation where there is no Governor and the majority is proved on the floor of the House by having a Caretaker Chief Minister just like we have a pro tem Speaker. But before that, I would like to say what we need to do or what we are supposed to do. When a party takes some MLAs as hostages and takes them around India as if they are taking them on a Bharat Darshan, how are we going to come out with a legislation to tackle this problem?

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : In Maharashtra, Shri Vilasrao Deshmukh took away your own party’s MLAs. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN : Nothing will go on record.

(Interruptions)* …

MR. CHAIRMAN: If he yields, it will go on record. Otherwise, it will not go on record.

(Interruptions)* …

* Not Recorded.

SHRI L. RAJAGOPAL (VIJAYAWADA): Sir, I am not saying that all the parties are indulging in this kind of behaviour. You know what happened in 1984 when Shrimati Indira Gandhi was the Prime Minister. The then Governor of Andhra Pradesh dismissed the Government headed by Shri N.T. Rama Rao and he gave a chance to some other person. What did Indiraji do at that time? She immediately recalled the Governor. Can they cite some instance like that? … (Interruptions)

Her conscience made her to do that. … (Interruptions)

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU (SRIKAKULAM): The whole country revolted at that time. … (Interruptions)

SHRI L. RAJAGOPAL : Sir, what did they do? They have thrown chappals. They hijacked the MLAs and kept them as hostages.… (Interruptions)

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : For the first time, a Governor was recalled from Andhra Pradesh due to the people’s movement. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Rajagopal, please conclude.

SHRI L. RAJAGOPAL : Sir, they took the MLAs away from Shri N.T. Rama Rao. That is not a problem. But I am very sad to say that because of that, Shri N.T. Rama Rao had a very miserable end to his life.

Can anybody think of an end in such a way? What are they doing now? They are trying to bring back his name on some sort of plaque by changing the name of an airport. Is that what we want? Is it not a shameful act?… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN : Shri Yerrannaidu, you have the chance to speak. You can speak when your turn comes. Please take your seat. Shri Rajgopal, please conclude now.

SHRI L. RAJAGOPAL : Sir, it is my maiden speech. I do not want to be disrupted. I do not want to yield to them.

Now, I would like to say about the culture about which Shri Ananth Kumar mentioned. I do not want to talk about the President or the Vice-President or the Prime Minister. I would like to remind him that there are so many Opposition stalwarts who have been Congressmen, who believed in Congress culture. I am telling you this because they have been fed with mother’s milk, that is, Congress. What did they do? They did not stab the Congress in the back. They stabbed her looking in her eyes in her heart. Is it a fair deal? Can we expect such things? These people are doing that… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: You have made your point, please conclude now.

SHRI L. RAJAGOPAL : I would like to conclude by saying that we have such a great leader, Shrimati Sonia Gandhi. What did they do? They abused her.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Why do you take trouble in saying that. Shri Shivraj Patil is here. He is quite capable to defend her.

SHRI L. RAJAGOPAL : Sir, they abused her. They named her. They did everything. And what did she do? She said, “I do not want the Prime Ministership”. Why did she say that? Why she opted to sit there? She wants the entire NDA, the entire BJP to look at her and learn from her. She wants them to remorse and reform themselves. Mahatma Gandhi has said one thing. He said, “do not hate the sinner, hate the sin”. That is why she is there without hating them.

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU (SRIKAKULAM): Mr. Chairman Sir, I rise to support this Statutory Resolution, moved by the hon. Home Minister, imposing President’s Rule in Goa. Even though my Party is against the imposition of article 356 in any State, there is no other option but to approve this Proclamation.

Article 356 of the Constitution is a danger that looms large over every regional party. The late Indira Gandhi was the Prime Minister when for the first time the Congress Government misutilised article 356 in the year 1959 against the Namboodripad Government. He enjoyed majority till last moment, but in the name of law and order, they imposed President’s Rule there. He hailed from Kerala, where you, Mr. Chairman, come from. From Kerala to Goa and Jharkhand, no part of the country has been spared by Congress, from Shrimati Indira Gandhi till the present UPA leadership.

From the beginning, we have been hating this Governor system. What happened in Andhra Pradesh in the year 1984? The majority of the MLAs were in Delhi and a minority Government was ruling in Andhra Pradesh. The whole country revolted. The people of the country revolted and the political parties, the Communist Parties, the Janata Dal, even the BJP, and all other Parties, except the Congress, joined together and held rallies and dharnas, etc. Finally, Shrimati Indira Gandhi reinstated the late N.T. Rama Rao’s Government. For the first time, it happened in India that one Chief Minister was dismissed and after one month, again he came to power in Andhra Pradesh. Immediately, the Governor, Shri Ram Lal, was recalled so that democracy was restored at that time.

At this moment also, I would request the hon. Home Minister that whenever there is a visible proof that a Governor has acted in a manner that is viewed as unconstitutional or unbecoming of such a high office, he should be immediately withdrawn in the interest of the people of that State. It is not only in the case of Goa, but if it happens in any State, we should recall that Governor.

17.00 hrs.

What was the Supreme Court judgment in the Bommai case? What are our conventions? What were the recommendations of the Sarkaria Commission? What were the recommendations of the Inter-State Council? Everybody knows. The NDA Government and even the present UPA Government appointed the politicians as Governors. I am asking the Government, through you, Sir, one question. What is the necessity to appoint politicians as Governors? The NDA Government had appointed Shri Madan Lal Khurana as the Governor of Rajasthan. Now, the UPA Government appointed Shri S.M. Krishna, Shri Sushil Kumar Shinde and Sardar Buta Singh as Governors. They were our colleagues in this House. Now, they were appointed as Governors in this country. … (Interruptions) I am not criticising those people. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN : Now, the hon. Home Minister is in possession of the House. Nobody should interfere.

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Sir, I would like to thank Shri K. Yerrannaidu for allowing me to just put one question to this august House. If we should not appoint the persons who know politics, governance and society, then who else should be appointed?

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Sir, I do agree with the Home Minister but I would like to mention that there are so many personalities in this vast country. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go on record except what Shri K. Yerrannaidu says.

(Interruptions)* …

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Sir, I have quoted the Supreme Court judgment in Bommai case. Even the Sarkaria Commission had made certain recommendations. I am just mentioning them. Sir, in this vast country, we have 100 crores of people. Do we not have other persons who can be appointed as Governors? This is my question.

*Not Recorded.

Sir, no person who is in active politics should be appointed as the Governor of any State. Today, even the students know what is politics, what is democracy, what is majority, and what is minority. Everybody knows about these. What is required is common sense. Justice has to be done. Any person with common sense can act as Governor. That is why, our Party, TDP demanded the abolition of the Governor system, and in place of the Governor system, the Chief Justice of the concerned State can take care of it. … (Interruptions)

SHRI BRAJA KISHORE TRIPATHY : You are supporting me. … (Interruptions)

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Yes, I am supporting you.

To avoid all these controversies in the Governor system, it is better that you remove the Governor system, and in place of the Governor system, you entrust this job to the Chief Justice of the concerned State so that these problems will not arise in future.

Sir, the UPA Government, due to the pressure and to do a damage control, has finally imposed the President’s Rule in Goa. Okay, I thank the Government for this. If the Central Government is interested in having a popular Government in Goa, then it should dissolve the Goa Assembly immediately and go to the people. Only then, the people in this country will hail the UPA Government. Otherwise, nobody will believe the UPA Government. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, you please conclude.

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU: Sir, the Central Government should dissolve the Assembly and go to the people. If the people elect the Congress Government in Goa, then they will be happy; and if they elect the BJP Government in Goa, then we will be very happy. We have to restore a popular Government in Goa without any delay immediately. That is our demand.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Ganesh Prasad Singh – not present.

Now, Shri Madhusudan Mistry.

The poachers have no right to talk of high moral grounds. They take people from Jharkhand and bring them right up to Delhi. The people who fought against the BJP have been cornered and brought here. The story of their bravery for bringing those people from there to here and at what level and how this work was done has been printed even in the media. Despite that fact, ºÉ¤É BÉEÉä ãÉÉãÉSÉ ÉÊnªÉÉ MɪÉÉ +ÉÉè® iÉàÉÉàÉ BÉEÉä ÉÊàÉÉÊxɺ]® ¤ÉxÉÉ ÉÊnªÉÉ MɪÉÉ, ªÉä cÉ<Ç àÉÉä®äãÉ MÉÉ=Æb BÉEÉÒ ¤ÉÉiÉ BÉEciÉä cé* Why did he not resign? Why did you not ask him to resign? Why did you wait till the Governor dismissed him? xÉcÉÓ, ªÉä ´Éc ¤ÉÉiÉ xÉcÉÓ BÉE®åMÉä, ´Éc càÉ ãÉÉäMÉ BÉE®åMÉä ÉÊBÉE cÉ<Ç àÉÉä®äãÉ º]ébbÇ cè* +ÉÉ{É {ÉÉäÉËSÉMÉ BÉE®åMÉä +ÉÉè® +ÉÉ{É cÉÒ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® ¤ÉxÉɪÉåMÉä, ªÉcÉÒ ®´ÉèªÉÉ +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉ ®cÉ cè* Mr. Yerrannaidu, I am addressing you. This is for Mr. Yerrannaidu.

MR. CHAIRMAN : You address the Chair.

SHRI MADHUSUDAN MISTRY : Sir, I am addressing you. I am not addressing Shri Yerrannaidu.

They are all talking about the high moral standards as well as the criteria for appointing a Governor. Who appointed Shri Khurana as the Governor of Rajasthan? On what ground he was appointed? … (Interruptions) That is why I am asking you what is wrong if we appoint. You have been questioning us. I am asking you why the Governor of Bihar was brought from Bihar to Gujarat? Where were all those high moral grounds when thousands of people were butchered and killed? Where was this Government? Why did they not ask for the Governor’s report? Why did you not dismiss the Government of Gujarat at that time? These are all double standards which your Party had adopted. Literally, you have no moral ground to take a high moral standard. You simply used and planted some people to carry out those stories.

This is my request to the Home Minister.

SHRI TATHAGATA SATPATHY (DHENKANAL): Thank you, Sir, for giving me the opportunity to speak about Goa today.

All the hon. Members who have spoken before me have spoken very eloquently. The hon. Minister has also intervened once or twice to give his point of view, which the whole House has appreciated. So, I would only limit my speech to a few points.

We are all aware of the lovely State of Goa, the beaches of Goa, the people of Goa; and, in my opinion, Goa is probably, along with Pondicherry, the only State which truly represents the international character of India. So, giving respect to the citizens of Goa, as we discuss about the political future of the State, we must keep in mind that there has been a major botch up on the part of the present United Progressive Alliance at the Centre not only in Goa but also in Jharkhand.

I do not wish to condemn any political party. I represent a regional party, the Biju Janata Dal, led my Mr. Naveen Patnaik of Orissa. So, I am speaking on behalf of a regional party, as a representative of the people of Orissa. What we find today is that all the national parties – I am not barring any party – have consistently, over the years since Independence, only tried to serve their particular interests and political goals. They have not bothered about the Constitution of India. This is perhaps the only country in the world which, in about half a century, has had the largest number of amendments to its Constitution. So, the Constitution is not respected. The political fibre of this country has been deliberately destroyed and we have not given respect to the wishes and feelings of the people.

A lack of clear administrative and political foresight was the main reason for this confusion that we see today in Goa and in what has happened recently in Jharkhand. So, when you think only of politics, you forget that you have, as the Government of the day, an administrative responsibility towards the people of the country. You cannot afford to be short-sighted; you cannot afford to be lop-sided in your view. I am not saying that it is the fault of one particular party. Please do not misunderstand me. Any national party that has ruled this country has had a lop-sided view, past and present. So, it is time that all of us unite; and, Goa is an excellent opportunity. It is an excellent example which showcases before us the dangers that are fraught in article 356 of the Constitution.

Like my senior colleague, Shri Kinjarapu Yerannaidu, said whether it is the Namboodiripad Government of Kerala, about which you must be very aware. Historically that was late Shrimati Indira Gandhi and now another Shrimati Gandhi is creating history again by the present activities. I am not condemning anybody. I am only pinpointing what has been happening. Then, it was the Left Parties who, for their stand and their convictions, were victimised and today for their convenience, they might be supporting the UPA. But they are political beings who understand where the danger lies.

Today, the Left Parties are ruling certain States. Shri Lalu Prsad ruled Bihar. Our Party is in power in Orissa. We should all get together, put our minds together and reconsider as to what is the utility of this article in the Constitution.

Secondly, as the hon. Leader of the Opposition spoke, he said that the recommendations of the Sarkaria Commission and Inter-State Council suggested that consultation must be made a part of the Constitution regarding appointment of Governors. This I consider is a very necessary amendment. Therefore, it is important that Article 356 be reviewed in a very balanced manner and wherever we find that Governors are becoming unconstitutional or they are showing behaviour which is unbecoming of a very high office, they should be forthwith withdrawn. Preferably, we should omit bureaucrats and politicians from the post of Governor and we should go in for neutral people as Governors.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Now, the hon. Minister of Home Affairs will reply.

Before you begin, as a Member of this House and a student who is interested in law, will you please enlighten me the provisions under which a legislature can be kept in a suspension animation and the elected representatives without pay and allowances? Is there any provision? Please tell me about it.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI TATHAGATA SATPATHY: Like in Bihar. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there any constitutional provision by which you can keep the elected body in a suspension animation and keep the elected representatives without pay and allowances? Is there any provision in the Constitution?

… (Interruptions)

SHRI TATHAGATA SATPATHY : Our support is there. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: I would like to know whether you can keep the MLAs without pay and allowances.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI TATHAGATA SATPATHY : Sir, first of all, the hon. Minister of Home Affairs should answer your question. … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: There is no ill-will. With best of intentions, it is simply to clarify the position. There is a provision for a dismissal, etc. But is there any provision under which a legislature can be kept in a suspension animation?

… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, Mr. Minister, you can start.

… (Interruptions)

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL):Sir, I would like to thank all the hon. Members and all the political parties. They have said that they would support this Motion for approval of the Proclamation. They have also made very good points.

Sir, you have also made two very important points. First, I would like to deal with the two important points made by the Chair.

Then, I will touch upon the other points which are mentioned by other hon. Members.

The first question you put was – whether there is any law or any rule which can allow the presiding officers to stop a Member from voting. My very respectful submission is, Sir, that I have not come across any rule or any law which can empower the presiding officer to stop a Member from voting in the proceedings in the House.

Now, the second question you posed was – whether the House can be put under suspended animation. The Constitution is silent on this point. But the Supreme Court is very eloquent. In Bommai case, the Supreme Court has said in clear terms that you do not dissolve the House in the first instance. If you dissolve the House and if the proclamation dissolving the House is not approved by the Parliament, a very peculiar situation develops. Actually, the Supreme Court has said that first the House should be put under suspended animation and then after the proclamation is approved, the Government can decide to dissolve the House.

So, though there is no specific provision in the Constitution, what is pronounced by the Supreme Court also becomes a law and that law is there. That ruling given by the Supreme Court has the same effectiveness, efficacy as the provision of the Constitution. So, I would submit, Sir, that there is this law available in the country.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Here the question is they have taken oath as MLAs. But here, no oath; they are not even MLAs.

… (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN : He is not yielding. It is time for the hon. Minister to reply.

… (Interruptions)

Sir, the points which have been raised by the hon. Members are these. What is the role of the governor? In fact, we were discussing the Proclamation. But many of the Members were discussing the conduct of the Governor. I would very respectfully submit that if you want to discuss the conduct of the Governor, we have to follow a procedure which is laid down in the Constitution.

If you want to discuss the Governor”’’s conduct, you shall have to give a notice of 14 days and then say what the Governor has done is correct or wrong, but unfortunately, many references were made to the decisions taken by the Governor and I thought at that time that it would prolong unnecessarily the discussion on that point if I had got up and objected to it, but I would like to say that the Governor”’’s conduct should not be discussed in this fashion.

A very important point has been made by the hon. Leader of the Opposition and that important point related to the appointment of the Governor. It is not about the conduct of the Governor, but it is about the appointment of the Governor. I think when we are discussing a matter of this nature, we are well within our right to discuss this issue also. I would like to read out certain kinds of decisions taken by the previous Government, not by the present Government. I do think that the decisions taken by the previous Government were not wrong; they were correct.

The Sarkaria Commission had recommended that the Governors”” appointment should be done in consultation with the Chief Ministers. This issue was discussed in the Inter-State Council and the Council also had come to certain conclusions, but later on when this matter was referred to the Law Ministry and the previous Government discussed all aspects relating to that point, they came to certain different conclusions. I will seek your indulgence to read out that relevant portion and I do think that what the previous Government had done was not wrong.

Since the President appoints the Governor, he may also remove or transfer a Governor from one State to another State. Prior consultation for appointment, therefore, will necessarily involve prior consultation in case of removal and transfer also. The proposed provision will politicise the whole issue of appointment of the Governors.

17.27 hrs.                    (Mr. Deputy-Speaker in the Chair)

It is the Governor”’’s responsibility to uphold the Constitution and to act as a check against any abuse of power by the Chief Minister. This purpose would be defeated if the Governor is beholden to the Chief Minister for his appointment. It may be stated that the institution of Governor provides a balancing act to support the federal set up enshrined in the Constitution. The founding fathers of the Constitution never intended to give a legal power to the Chief Ministers to be consulted for appointment of a Governor of a State. The Governor has to perform an honest duty cast on him by the Constitution to send periodical reports to the Centre on the activities in the States. Thus, it is imperative that the Centre may continue to have a final say in the matter of the appointment.

The Deputy Prime Minister had also stated in the meeting of the Inter-State Council that not a single Governor had been appointed by the present Government without consultation or against the wishes of the Chief Minister. Thus, the scope of any complaint will, therefore, be non-existent. Since the things are moving smoothly, there is perhaps little point in legislating on a matter which is otherwise handled without any problem. It may also be stated that in case there is an amendment and the consultation is made obligatory, this consultation would slowly devolve into concurrence and may ultimately degenerate into approval by the Chief Minister. Such an amendment is likely to result in abnormal delay in appointment of the Governors resulting in unnecessary and avoidable controversy involving sacrosanct institution of the Governors as enshrined in the Constitution. Thus, it would be in the best interest of the Union Government not to accept the recommendations of amending the Constitution and making consultation with the Chief Minister obligatory. The Governor is a representative of the Union Government.

He has a role, as the eyes and ears of the Union Government, and he is expected to report when the administration of the State Government is not carried out in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution. The Governor has a role in ensuring that there is coordination in legislation between the States and the Union, and that he ensures reserving Bills for assent by the President. The need for prior consultations — which should, in practice, imply concurrence — with the Chief Minister will place the Governor under the obligation to the Chief Minister, and thereby, hamper him in conduct of his duties.

Also, under article 153, a Governor may be appointed for two or more States. A Governor may be transferred from one State to another. This would imply consultations with more than one Chief Minister, which will make the whole process cumbersome. Consultations will also not be possible if a State is under the President’s Rule.

In view of the aforesaid, the recommendation of the Inter-State Council, that the Constitution be amended to make the consultation with the Chief Minister obligatory, has not been accepted. With the approval of the Deputy Prime Minister, the Inter-State Council Secretariat has been informed accordingly.

SHRI L.K. ADVANI (GANDHINAGAR): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I would not have intervened, had it not been for the fact that the Home Minister has been gracious enough to readout the whole thing.

He has just now said that the recommendation of the Inter-State Council, namely, that there be a Constitutional Amendment to provide for consultation with the State Government statutory. The earlier Government has not accepted this, and this Government agrees with it. But while giving the rationale as to why we did not agree, you were kind enough to have readout the whole thing, in which it has been very categorically mentioned that not a single case of appointment of a Governor took place, during the last six years, without consultation with the State Chief Minister, and things are going smoothly. Therefore, the Law Ministry advised that we might not go into the statutory provisions, which, they apprehend, might deteriorate into becoming concurrence, instead of consultation. I am saying this because, in our case, it is true that we did take their concurrence for all practical purposes. But the recommendation of the Inter-State Council was that consultation be made obligatory.

It is because of the last few days’ experience that I made this suggestion today that this recommendation of the Inter-State Council — which represents all the Chief Ministers in the country, and not merely the Chief Ministers belonging to my party — should be accepted. If that was accepted, perhaps there would have been some kind of a check, which would ensure federal balance to a much larger extent than the present arrangement, in which, instead of a federal balance, it is a unitary bias in favour of the Centre. This is all that I have got to say on this issue.

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Sir, fortunately, there is no divergence of opinion on this point. The point is that there should be consultation. The second point that I wish to make is this. Will it escalate into concurrence, and will it graduate into approval? The Law Ministry and the previous Government stated here that consultation as a convention should be there, but it is not necessary to amend the Constitution for this purpose. The previous Government as well as this Government, and all the jurists also have been saying — after considering the federal structure of the Constitution — that consultation should not mean concurrence, and concurrence should not mean approval. Now, what is being done is that we are consulting. Concurrence may or may not be there, but, of course, approval is not there.

SHRI L.K. ADVANI : No, but even consultation, as a convention, has been given the go-by.

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: No, it is not so.

SHRI L.K. ADVANI : In the case of Shri Parrikar, in the case of Gujarat, and in all these cases there has been no consultation with the Chief Minister.

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: No, it is not so.

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Unfortunately, the hon. Member who is speaking is not the Chief Minister, and I would not like to say anything in absence of the Chief Minister on the floor of the House whether it was a consultation or information.

Let us leave that point. The only point I was making was that as far as the role of the Governor is concerned, Governors are the ‘eyes’ and ‘ears’ of the Union Government. They are expected to give the information to the national Government as to the happenings in a particular State. Now, you have the present case and you have the cases at other places also. On the one hand, we are saying that let us not have Governors, and on the other hand we are saying that article 356 is not required. And we have exactly the case in which the Governor has played a role and article 356 has been used in order to see that what was done over there, and which was not expected, was corrected also.

In view of these facts, we shall have to take a very balanced view. Going to any extreme is not going to help. To say that the Governors are not required is not helpful. To say that article 356 is not required is not accepted. Now, these points have been discussed at length on many, many occasions, and I am happy that on this occasion also, in a very correct manner, these points have been presented. Advaniji’s contribution in this debate, I think, when he intervened and when he made the speech, is that he has made these points more clear to all of us.

The previous Government was not for amending the law. The previous Government was certainly not for approval of the Chief Minister. It did also not go to the extent of saying that there should be concurrence. But the previous Government was very clear that the consultation should take place, and, I think, this is a correct position and there will not be any deviation from that. But consultation does not mean concurrence; consultation does not mean approval because we do not have full information with us. If we make allegations against each other, that does not help. If there is some mistake or some disease in one’s hand or leg, you please apply the medicine at that place where the disease is there. If the hand is suffering and if you are applying the medicine to the leg, the hand is not going to get the relief. The difficulty is this. We are saying that this particular thing has happened. But whom are we blaming or whom are we giving credit to? Let the blame go to the right place, and let the credit also go to the right place. Credit need not go to the right place, but blame need not go to the wrong place. That is my submission.

While discussing this issue, Anti-Defection Law was also discussed. I am sorry that the hon. Leader of the Opposition made a statement, which is generally made by the media while discussing Anti-Defection Law. During the debate, there was a discussion on one-third provision. He said, “Wholesale defection is allowed, whereas the retail of defection is not allowed.” This has been said many times. I am one of the Members who participated in the discussions when the Anti-Defection Law came into existence originally. May I make a submission on this floor of the House in order to correct the perception about the Anti-Defection Law that the hon. Members have? The original bill did not have this one-third provision in the Act. In fact, Prof. Madhu Limaye and Mr. Nani Palkivala referred to that; and Mr. Devendra Prasad Yadav made a reference to that. They said that by giving the power to party leaders to give directions to the Members, the Government was making them powerful and it was making the Members of the political parties, who have to vote here, very, very weak; and that this was not correct and this was against the democratic principles.

Hon. Advaniji also referred to what is happening in UK – Members have been going from one party to the other. Governments have been formed and Governments have been pulled down there also not once but many times. Leaders like Churchill also moved from one party to the other. That does not mean we should also do it here. We would rather not like to do it here.

When the law was made, this question was raised. One of the Members from Maharashtra Legislative Assembly who happened to be the Speaker of Maharashtra Legislative Assembly also – it was after I left the legislature – vehemently opposed it. He insisted that this provision should not be there in the law. Suppose the party leaders give a wrong direction. Will it be binding on all Members? Then it was said that if a majority of the Members thinks that a direction given by the party leader is not correct, they should be allowed to vote as they like. The question discussed at that time was as to what should be that number. In the initial stage the number suggested was two-thirds of the number of Members. Then it came down to half the Members. Ultimately it settled at one-third of the Members. It was then that this one-third provision was made in order to see that Members in the House have the liberty to vote as they wish.

Suppose the manifesto says that a certain thing has to be done and the leader of the Parliamentary party says that a Member should vote in a particular fashion. The question discussed at that time was whether the Members would be bound by it or not. Then it was amended. It was said that if one-third of the Members wanted to go against the direction given by the Party, it should be allowed. That became a part of the law at that time. Later on it was found that even this provision was misused. That is why, I think, the last Government removed that provision. At that time I suggested that though your removing that provision was very good, this kind of a provision should not be made binding on the Members at all times and in all cases. I said that this provision should be made binding on Members only in the cases when the existence or continuity of the Government is in question and on other points, the Members should be allowed to vote as they want. Probably at that time this issue was not clearly perceived by the Members. The amendments were there. We were sitting in the Opposition. We also did not want to oppose it and it went on. However, we did have this in mind.

Now, if Members are resigning from their Membership, can we have a law which would say that a Member shall not be allowed to resign? Who instigated the resignation is a point.

SHRI L.K. ADVANI : They cannot be made Ministers. Law cannot say that they cannot resign. But you cannot resign and become a Minister.

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: That is right. Advaniji, let me submit very humbly that you cannot have all the five Independent Members as your Ministers.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : They were elected and they gave support to us.

SHRI L.K. ADVANI : I would be happy if I were able to implement what you have said. But that is not a question of bypassing the Anti-Defection Law. This is bypassing the Anti-Defection Law.

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Advaniji, I would definitely not blame any leadership at the national level for this. I would say that they have done it. If a disease is there at a particular place, apply the medicine there. Do not apply the medicine at a wrong place. … (Interruptions)

SHRI L.K. ADVANI : In the Anti-Defenction Law, see that it cannot be binding.

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: There developed a particular peculiar situation. They wanted to overcome it and they did it, wrongly or rightly. We can say that they were wrong. Some people say they were right. This is a question of our perception. But this is the position.

That is why this Anti-Defection Law has been brought into existence. It was enacted in order to see that a better stability is provided to the Government. It was enacted to see that the opinion expressed by the voters in the election is respected by the elected Members who are sitting in the legislature making the laws, passing the budget and taking decisions. This was the intention.

I do agree with you that the stability of the Government is very important. On many many counts, the Governments have been disturbed. I have been saying since 1992 that in democracy, accountability is very important. Without accountability, democracy cannot exist. But supposing in the name of accountability or in the name of procedures or in the name of law, every Government is destabilised. If you have a situation in which in 13 years, 12 Chief Ministers were there or in 12 years, 13 Chief Ministers were there, what kind of Government would be there? Will that be a really democratic Government? That is why, a question which has to be answered by us, not in a partisan manner but collectively in the House is: How to provide not absolute stability but reasonable stability to Government? When we are sitting on this side, we would say that stability should be there. If we are sitting on that side, we would say that accountability is more important. If we do not strike a balance between accountability and reasonable stability, the situation can develop in a country like ours, which is too big, where elections cannot take place every year or every six months or every two years. If that situation develops, it is going to be very difficult. The stability can be provided by the ethos and ideology.

Shri Lalu Prasad was sitting here and he was telling me that if people do not have ideological moorings, they are likely to float like this from one party to the other. He is right, hundred per cent right. Nothing is more important than the ideological moorings for a Member to remain in his party, where the character of the leadership, character of the Members and the character of the voters also can provide stability. But supposing if it is not going to be easily available or can be easily used, then there should be something in the Constitution which can give reasonable stability. As to what can be given? People have thought about it. When the occasion comes, it can be discussed. If it is acceptable, it can be incorporated in the Constitution. If it is not, we can live with the situation which is existing here. But the situation is developing fortunately not so much at the national level but at the State level that the stability is not available to the Government over there and they are suffering because they are not stable over there. But this is an issue which cannot be answered very clearly and fully in a debate like this. But this issue has been touched upon by many of the Members. I do think that the thinking Members would certainly apply their minds and give the suggestions to the Government, to the House, and to the people at large through the media or by participating in the debate in this house.

Last point which I would like to refer is, Advaniji has said that the House should be dissolved, and many other Members also have said that the Legislative Assembly in Goa should be dissolved. Now, the decision taken by the Government is before you. Why the decision is taken and what is really the rationale behind the decision is known to you. We are not asking for the credit because it is not necessary to give credit to anybody, to the Government of India or to the Government of Goa or to anyone else. We tried to be as correct as is possible. As we have done it, we would try to be as correct as is possible in future also. But there is a suggestion made by other Members also from their side. That suggestion is there. This suggestion is there and more important is, the peoples opinion. What the people of Goa will think about it? We will keep it in view, we will take a decision.

I am sorry I am not in a position, without consulting my colleagues and the Cabinet and the Government, to say yes or no to this. We will take appropriate decision when the occasion arises. But I would like to say that it should be very clear to the hon. Members that we are trying to be as correct as is possible and that much I can go up to.

With this, I would request the hon. Members to approve this Proclamation and help the people and the Government in Goa and all of us to come out of this imbroglio.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The question is:

“That this House approves the Proclamation issued by the President on the 4th March, 2005 under article 356 of the Constitution in relation to the State of Goa. ”

The motion was adopted.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The House stands adjourned to meet tomorrow on the 19th March, 2005 at 11.00 a.m.

The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of the Clock

on Saturday, March 19, 2005/Phalguna 28, 1926 (Saka).

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Mr. Speaker, Sir, yesterday the issue of Rajolibanda Diversion Scheme was raised in the House. … (Interruptions) In that Scheme, it was said that injustice has been done by Karnataka to the State of Andhra Pradesh. … (Interruptions) The farmers of Karnataka, especially the farmers of Mandvi Taluka … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please maintain order in the House.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : The power project that is being constructed there can generate 4.5 megawatt of power. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: He is not speaking on the airport. He is speaking on a different subject and you are interrupting him.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Sit down. He is speaking on a separate subject.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, there is a power project which is going to generate 4.5 megawatt of power which is very useful for the State of Karnataka. Karnataka is rightfully using its share of water through the RDS canal. I want to clear the misconception that injustice has been done to the State of Andhra Pradesh and the people of Andhra Pradesh. We support the stand of farmers of Karnataka and we are putting forth that stand. Not only that, there is one more thing. It is very well known that in any hydroelectric project, the water used again flows down to the lower riparian areas. Therefore, I want to make it amply clear that through this power project – which generates 4.5 to 5 megawatt of power – no injustice is being done to Andhra Pradesh. More justice should be done to the people of Karnataka, farmers of Karnataka and the farmers of Mandvi Taluka. I am raising this issue here on behalf of the farmers of Karnataka and the farmers of Mandvi Taluka.

DR. M. JAGANNATH : Sir, he is misleading the House. Waters of Tungabhadra are being diverted … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: You raised an issue relating to Andhra Pradesh and he has also raised an issue relating to Karnataka. Hon. Members are entitled to express their views.

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : People of Andhra Pradesh will do what is needed to be done. Congress party will die in Andhra Pradesh because of their … *

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will be recorded. Please sit down now. Shri Rajaram Pal will speak now. Nobody else’s observations will be recorded.

12.34 hrs.

(At this stage, Shri Kinjarapu Yerrannaidu and some other

hon. Members left the House.)

SHRI SUKHDEV SINGH DHINDSA (SANGRUR): Sir, I have an important issue to raise.

MR. SPEAKER: You cannot ask me at any time you want. I will call you if there is a notice. If you have not given a notice, I would not call you.

* Not Recorded.

PROF. VIJAY KUMAR MALHOTRA : He says, he has given notice.

MR. SPEAKER: I am informed that there is no notice.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I will not allow those who will call me ‘Sir’, ‘Sir’. Do not interrupt like this. This bad habit should go. It seems all the Special Mentions have to be abolished because it is becoming a free for all.

12.15 hrs.

SUBMISSION BY MEMBERS

Re: Need to name the International Airport at ‘Shamshabad’ in Rangareddy district of Andhra Pradesh after Dr. N.T. Rama Rao

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU (SRIKAKULAM): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Government has decided shifting of Hyderabad Airport to Shamshabad. The Hyderabad Airport was named after Shri Rajiv Gandhi and Dr. N.T. Rama Rao. The whole country knows that he was Chairman of National Front. Dr. N.T. Rama Rao was pride of the people. He was affectionately called Annagaru. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: What is happening? I made a special appeal to everybody.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Shrimati Sonia Gandhi is going tomorrow to lay the foundation stone of this international airport. … (Interruptions) Yesterday, the Cabinet has taken a decision to name it after Shri Rajiv Gandhi and ignore Dr. N.T. Rama Rao. The UPA Government has created a new precedent in this country. In the whole country, there are so many airports after the names of legendary leaders. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I will give you opportunity.

… (Interruptions)

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I am appealing to all sections. I am trying to control. Please sit. I will give you an opportunity.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: No, this is not right. Please sit. Please co-operate. You cannot speak together. Even two Members cannot speak together. Please sit down.

… (Interruptions)

I am on my legs. Shri Yerrannaidu, please sit down.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I am on my legs.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing is being recorded. Why are you shouting? Nothing will be recorded unless permitted by me. Please sit. I will give this side also the opportunity.

(Interruptions) … *

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing is being recorded. Please sit down.

(Interruptions) …*

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*Not Recorded.

MR. SPEAKER: Please co-operate. Let us have some semblance of order so that every hon. Member has the satisfaction of saying what he wants to say.

Shri Yerrannaidu, please be brief because there are so many items which the hon. Members want to raise.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. Please have order in the House.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please be brief. You have made your point.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am not criticising anybody. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: There will be no ””Zero Hour””, if it happens like this. I will call the Minister to reply.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: You sit down.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Mr. Speaker, Sir, Andhra Pradesh Government had taken a decision in the year 1998. … (Interruptions) Shri Ananth Kumar was the Civil Aviation Minister. The Union Cabinet of NDA Government took a decision in the year 1999 to name it after Dr. N.T. Rama Rao. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. I will give you opportunity. I have said that. Why are you talking now?

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I am again and again appealing to all the hon. Members to develop the art of listening. You please listen. They will listen when you speak and then you give your replies.

… (Interruptions)

You come here and do it.

… (Interruptions)

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please finish now. You have mentioned the matter. Please have order in the House, Shri Ramdas Bandu Athawale.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Mr. Speaker, Sir, in the country, there are so many airports which are named after legendary leaders. Mumbai airport is named after Chhatrapati Shivaji and Kolkata airport is named after Subhash Chandra Bose. What happened to Hyderabad airport? Dr. N.T. Rama Rao is the pride of Telugu people. It was the decision of the previous Government. We are not asking for taking away the name of Shri Rajiv Gandhi, but that status quo should be maintained. Otherwise, the House will not function. I am asking what is wrong with the name of Dr. N.T. Rama Rao. Even Chennai airport is named after Anna Kamraj. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed you to speak, but you cannot say that you will not allow the House to function.

Mr. Yerrannaidu, I have allowed you to speak first because of the sentiments expressed by you on this issue. But, this is not correct.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: No, you have already made your point.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Sir, this issue relates to nearly 700 crore Telugu people, and I am representing all of them. … (Interruptions) I would request the Government to respond on this issue. (Interruptions) …*

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*Not Recorded.

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing more will be recorded. Mr. Yerrannaidu, please sit down.

…(Interruptions)

DR. M. JAGANNATH (NAGAR KURNOOL): Sir, the status quo should be maintained. … (Interruptions)

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, the hon. Member has mentioned my name in this issue. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed him to speak.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I have made an appeal to all sections of the House to allow him to speak. I have requested him to speak, and he has made his point forcefully. Let us hear whether anything can be said on this issue.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, the hon. Member has mentioned my name. Therefore, kindly allow me to speak on this issue. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Do you want to speak on this issue? There is no question about it.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, I want to associate myself…. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I will call you on a different matter to be raised by you, and you know about it.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Let us hear the views of the Government on this issue. Does anybody want to respond on behalf of the Government? Okay, let us hear the Government on this issue. The Leader of the House wants to respond on this issue.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, he has taken my name in this issue. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please, maintain silence in the House. The Leader of the House wants to respond on this issue. Let us hear him.

THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE): Sir, I would like to clarify the position with regard to this issue. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Tripathy, please do not give running commentary. You are a distinguished Member.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will be recorded except the response of Shri Pranab Mukherjee.

(Interruptions) … *

SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE: Sir, the actual position should be placed before the House. The name of Hyderabad Airport was named after Shri Rajiv Gandhi. Thereafter, that name was altered. … (Interruptions)

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : No, Sir. It is not true.

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Sir, it is not correct.

SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE: After 1989 the name was altered, and a part of it was named after Shri N. T. Rama Rao, and another part was known as the Rajiv Gandhi Airport. … (Interruptions) Therefore, the name of the airport, which has been proposed for creation, is named after Shri Rajiv Gandhi. But the existing airport, which is continuing to operate for quite some time, will bear the names of both Shri N. T. Rama Rao, and Shri Rajiv Gandhi.

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Sir, this is not true. … (Interruptions)

* Not Recorded.

SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE: This is the factual position with regard to this issue. It would be wrong to say that the original name of the Hyderabad Airport was given after the name of two persons. It was named after Shri Rajiv Gandhi, which was altered. The name of Shri N. T. Rama Rao was inducted later on, and that correction has been made. … (Interruptions)

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Sir, this is not correct.

DR. M. JAGANNATH : Sir, it is not correct. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Next, Shri Ananth Kumar. It is regarding your very important matter, which you wanted to raise in the House.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, regarding the N. T. Rama Rao Airport … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: What can be done about it? I cannot do anything. He has already given his reply.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI BRAJA KISHORE TRIPATHY (PURI): Sir, can there be two names for an airport? … (Interruptions)

MAJ. GEN. (RETD.) B. C. KHANDURI (GARHWAL): Sir, he was the Minister concerned at that time. An allegation has been made that the previous Government has changed the name. Let him speak on this issue. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will be recorded. Shri Ananth Kumar, kindly speak only on your issue.

(Interruptions) …*

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Mr. Speaker, Sir, Shri Yerrannaidu has mentioned my name. Therefore, kindly allow me to speak on this issue.

* Not Recorded.

MR. SPEAKER: If there was some allegation against you, then you could have given a personal explanation.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, I was the Civil Aviation Minister at that time. The Leader of the House has misled the House. The domestic terminal of that airport was named as N. T. Rama Rao Airport.

Shri N. T. Rama Rao was a legendary figure, and he was a popular Chief Minister. The new international airport should be named after Shri N. T. Rama Rao. This is the demand of the people of Andhra Pradesh, and this is the demand of everybody here.

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Ananth Kumar, kindly come to the subject that you wished to raise here.

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Sir, the Government should come forward, and say something on this issue. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: He has already given his response on this issue. What is this going on in the House?

… (Interruptions)

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Sir, the Government should say something on this issue. … (Interruptions) This is a great insult to the Telugu people … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Ananth Kumar, kindly raise your own issue here. Only Shri Ananth Kumar’s statement should be recorded.

(Interruptions) … *

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Regarding Rajolibanda diversion scheme, no injustice has been done to Andhra Pradesh from the side of Karnataka. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Only the statement of Shri Ananth Kumar will be recorded.

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*Not Recorded.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Karnataka is losing water that is due to it on account of the Award. We are not using excess water. Whatever hydel project has been constructed there, that will generate 4.5 MW of power. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Yerrannaidu, I appreciate your sentiments and the sentiments that you have mentioned. You have made your position very clear and it has been made very forcefully. I have called you first because it is my duty to give an opportunity to you.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Is this the way you are helping me?

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I am not listening to them. The Government has given its response. I cannot do anything. We cannot do anything here by shouting.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Ananth Kumar wanted to give an explanation and he has given the same. Now, he has also a very important matter to raise and, therefore, I have called him. Please cooperate with the Chair.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Mr. Speaker, Sir, before walking out in protest, I wish to say that this is a great insult to Telugu pride and to Telugu-speaking people. … (Interruptions) Mr. Speaker, Sir, instead of changing the name like this, they can as well rename ‘Andhra Pradesh’ as ‘Rajiv Pradesh’! … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will be recorded.

(Interruptions) … *

12.27 hrs.

(At this stage, Shri Kinjarapu Yerrannaidu and some other

hon. Members left the House.)

… (Interruptions)

* Not Recorded.

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing is being recorded.… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: You belong to the Treasury Benches. The Leader of the House has spoken. I have given an opportunity to him and he has given a clarification on their views. What more can be done here?

… (Interruptions)

12.28 hrs.

(At this stage Prof. Vijay Kumar Malhotra and some other hon. Members

left the House)

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MR. SPEAKER: Let us come back to our business. Now, I give the floor to Shri Rajaram Pal.

MR. SPEAKER: May I request the hon. Members to maintain order? This is your House and your valuable time.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: It will be recorded that you walked out and came back.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI SURESH KALMADI (PUNE): What is the position of the Opposition? Have they walked out or not? … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I can only appeal to all the sections to maintain order.

… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I do not know whether you really want anybody to be in the Chair because you are deciding everything from there. I am giving opportunity to everybody to speak. I felt that Shri Yerrannaidu had an important issue to raise and gave him the opportunity. I promised Shri Ananth Kumar yesterday that I would allow his issue to be raised in the House and I called him. If anybody wants to respond, I am giving the opportunity. This is how we can know each other’s views. Only shouting will not help anybody. I again and again appeal to all of you to please cooperate. This is your House. Your valuable time is being lost.

Shri Ananth Kumar.

… (Interruptions)

RAILWAY BUDGET 2005-2006, GENERAL DISCUSSION

DEMANDS FOR GRANTS ON ACCOUNTS 2005-2006, RAILWAYS

DEMANDS FOR SUPPLEMENTARY GRANTS 2004-2005 – RAILWAYS – Contd.

MADAM CHAIRMAN: The House would now take up further discussion on the Railway Budget – 2005-06.

MADAM CHAIRMAN : Nothing will go on record.

(Interruptions)* …

MADAM CHAIRMAN: This is not the way.

… (Interruptions)

MADAM CHAIRMAN: Please go to your seats.

… (Interruptions)

* Not Recorded.

SHRI CHANDRA SEKHAR SAHU (BERHAMPUR): Madam Chairman, thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to speak on the Railway Budget. I rise to support the Railway Budget presented by the hon. Minister, Shri Lalu Prasad, for the year 2005-06. As you know, Madam, Indian Railways is the largest network in the world. More than fourteen lakhs of people are employed in the Railways. The network of the Railways is spread throughout the country. It unites our people. It creates a bond of unity. There is a saying that railway network is the lifeline of our country, in which the spirit of the country”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’’s unity flows.

After its presentation, the Budget was appreciated by all sections of the country. I do not want to repeat those points on which my colleagues have already spoken. This Budget has kept in mind the objectives that have been made out in the National Common Minimum Programme of the United Progressive Alliance Government. As you know, Madam, this Budget has not increased the fares of passenger travel and freights. It has kept in mind the interests of Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes, OBCs, war widows, widows of railway employees, students, freedom fighters and the common man as a whole. Among the several modes of transport, the common man always prefers the rail. So, keeping in view the National Minimum Programme of the UPA Government, the hon. Minister, Shri Lalu Prasad has given a very good Budget for the year 2005-06. I have already mentioned that I will not repeat the points made already by my colleagues. Everyday about two crores of people travel by train.

Without increasing the freight and fares, the hon. Minister has announced a lot of development works throughout the country regarding the Railways. I can say that with all humility.

I am now coming to my constituency, to my State. If I remember correctly, after Independence and during the British time, the constituency which I represent had only one line. The Howrah-Chennai line was the only line. There was nothing else apart from that. But I want to make one request. The hon. Minister is present here. Parlakhemundi Maharaj Krushnachandra Gajapathi Dev, who was the founder of the Orissa State, started construction of one narrow-gauge line from Naupada to Gunpur. Now, the broad-gauge work is going on.… (Interruptions) The work of conversion of that line into a broad-gauge line is going on. In the last Budget, they gave about Rs.15 crore for that. But in this year, it has come down to Rs.5 crore. So, I would request the hon. Minister to raise it to Rs.25 crore.… (Interruptions)

MADAM CHAIRMAN : Thank you. Now, conclude.

SHRI CHANDRA SEKHAR SAHU : I have just started. I have taken only two minutes.… (Interruptions)

MADAM CHAIRMAN: There are so many Members to speak. You have already taken enough time. Please conclude.

SHRI CHANDRA SEKHAR SAHU : I will take just a few minutes.

I thank the hon. Railway Minister for one thing. Even after about 58 years of Independence, South Orissa has not been directly connected to New Delhi. In this Budget, the Nizamuddin-Bhubaneshwar Hirakud Express has been extended up to Vishakapatnam by which South Orissa and the North Andhra people will have a direct connection to New Delhi. Further, the Tirupati-Puri service, which was a bi-weekly service, has been made a daily service. I thank the hon. Minister for that.

As far as other trains are concerned, a lot of trains have been extended and the frequency has been increased. So, I thank the hon. Railway Minister for that. I have a few more points to make. I will take one or two minutes only.

There is a long-standing demand from the South Orissa people, especially the daily passengers from Berhampur. They want one monthly season ticket to be given. That is, from Berhampur to Bhubaneshwar, one ticket should be given just like that of Bombay-Pune. They say that it is more than 150 kms. But from Bombay to Pune, though it is more than 150 kms., they give one direct ticket. But here, from Berhampur to Khurda Road and again from Khurda Road to Bhubaneshwar, it is not done. So, I would request the hon. Minister to kindly look into it.

I have some more demands. A passenger halt in Gopalpur Junction must be there. There should be improvement of the Railway Station in Chattarpur, the district headquarters. Then, the Railways have to shift the goods shed from Berhampur Railway Station to Jagannathpur which is only five kms. away. This is under the proposal stage now. So, I want this to be given effect to immediately.

Next, I come to the Faluknama Express. There is a lot of demand from the people of my area, from Chattarpur, which is the district headquarters. They want a halt of the Faluknama Express for two minutes.… (Interruptions)

MADAM CHAIRMAN : I think you have completed all your points.

SHRI CHANDRA SEKHAR SAHU : I will take only one minute more.

There is a passenger train which runs from Palasa to Kurda Road now. Earlier, it was running from Palasa to Puri and the poor people from my area used to go to Puri by this train. As you know, Puri is the main dham of India and it is very famous in India. So, I would request the hon. Railway Minister to extend this passenger train from Kurda Road to Puri.

Then, a lot of people from my area, that is, Ganjam district of Orissa are working in Surat in Gujarat. There are two trains to Gujarat from Orissa now and they are now running from Puri to Ahmedabad and Puri to Okha respectively. At present these trains are running only for five-days-a-week. I would request the hon. Minister that the frequency of these two trains should be increased from five-days-a-week to all seven days of the week so that the people of my area are benefited.

I conclude now, because you are repeatedly giving bell and asking me to conclude. With these words, I support the Railway Budget for 2005-06 presented by Shri Lalu Prasad.

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15.09 hrs.
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MR. DEPUTY- SPEAKER: Shri E. Ponnuswamy. Please try to give only suggestions. I have got a vast list of speakers.

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SHRI E. PONNUSWAMY (CHIDAMBARAM) : Sir, I thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to participate in the discussion.

Five years back I had seen an adage in the Southern Railway premises, Chennai. It was written on the board which said: “We always accomplish what is possible immediately and we will try to accomplish to make the impossible possible one”. I was really moved by that adage. … (Interruptions)

I congratulate the hon. Minister of Railways for presenting a really praise-worthy, innovative, admirable and progressive Budget taking not only the consumers’ interest but also all round development of the Railways.

First of all, the hon. Minister has not hiked the passenger fare in spite of the unprecedented and all time high rise in the fuel price. He has also taken an initiative to bring back the traffic by not hiking any high freight charges which is simply laudable.

As the Indian Railways are the fourth largest railway network under a single management in the world, with the modest beginning in 1853 with just 35 kms., the Indian Railways have today grown to a national network of 63,221 route kms., moving on the average 1.5 million tonnes of freight and 14 million passengers per day. Out of total length of 63,221 route kms., 46,807 route kms have already been converted into broad gauge. Out of this, Tamil Nadu is having the largest length of metre gauge in India still to be attended to. I would however, like to make certain points regarding Tamil Nadu, particularly of my constituency. On the on-going projects, the Tamil Nadu has been given less than Rs. 400 crore this time though the net cost works out to more than Rs. 2,000 crore.

I would like to urge upon the Government and the hon. Minister of Railways to allocate more funds for Tamil Nadu for completion of the on-going projects.

Regarding new lines, 14 new lines have been announced out of which not even a single line has been included for Tamil Nadu. Regarding one line, which I have been requesting since 1999-2000, that is Tindivanam to Kanchipuram via Vandavasi be connected, the hon. Minister has now told that it has been taken up from Tiruvannamalai to Nagari via Tindivanam, Chengalpattu, Vandavasi and Arani. I would like to request the hon. Minister of Railways to take up the completion of the survey work because this is hanging on for the last 50 years. Now, it can be taken up as participating work project.

Regarding gauge conversion, in my constituency, gauge conversion of Cuddalore-Salem line has been taken up and completed upto Vridachalam. This year, up to Athur it has been taken up. I would like to request the hon. Minister to extend it up to Salem and complete it early. There is also a main line from Cuddalore to Tanjavur via my constituency, Chidambaram. I have requested the hon. Minister to take that also into account in this year’s Budget. I would request him to take that work also and complete it – it is in my constituency, Chidambaram – by converting that line into broad gauge.

Regarding delay of trains, I would like to tell my personal experience. I have been travelling by a train from Vridachalam to Chennai very often. I have never had the experience of reaching Chennai on time. I used to wait for hours. The hon. Minister of State for Railways belongs to my Party and I have apprised him also of this. He has taken certain measures. But still that train runs at enormous delays which can be avoided by early action.

In regard to safety measure, an amount of Rs. 3,645 crore has been allotted and it has to be judiciously spent taking all aspects of the safety measures into account. There are 1,262 train escort parties for the interest of the passengers, who are the RPF people. It has been jocularly said about them as to whether they are Railway Protection Force or ‘Railway Pilferage Force’ because there are a lot of things that are happening in connivance with the RPF people. The passengers are taken for a ride. I would request the hon. Minister of Railways to take necessary steps for safeguarding the interests of the passengers.

On reservation, there are a lot of bookstalls, refreshment stalls, telephone booths and other items that have been given on a certain percentage of reservation to the weaker sections. But there are people from the category of physically handicapped who are expecting these things and this aspect can also be taken into account and provisions can be made for that.

There is another important aspect regarding the waste land and reclamation of rails. The railway land which is just kept unused can be taken to reclaim for better use. As my colleague has mentioned, waste lands are not used and certain undesirable activities are going on like encroachment and other activities. Constructive steps can be taken up by the hon. Minister to use that properly for the advantage of the public.

I would like to point out that there is one Guruvayur-Chennai Express train running through my constituency. It does not have adequate compartments including AC compartment. I would request the hon. Minister of Railways to take steps to include at least two compartments – one AC 2-tier and one First AC – so that those people who are eligible, and who can afford can travel by these compartments.

Salem Division is our lifeline. Tamil Nadu has been fighting for this for decades. Recently also, in the last week, all the Members of Parliament from Tamil Nadu have met our hon. Minister of Railways requesting him to bring back the Salem division to Tamil Nadu. Nine districts of Tamil Nadu and only one district of Kerala are included in the Palghat division. We are not against Kerala getting any concession or any comfortable provision.

We only want that the Salem Division should be given to us by making necessary modifications in the rules. I would request the hon. Railway Minister to see the reason behind such a request. The hon. Railway Minister should see the request of the Tamil Nadu people, and give back the Salem Division to them without any further delay.

I honestly feel that more funds should have been allocated for modernisation of all the Railway programmes, but the funds now allocated are not adequate for the same. I would request the hon. Railway Minister to ensure that more funds are allocated for modernisation of the Railways.

I would like to mention another point. A railway link line between the Central-Egmore Railway Stations has been sanctioned for a cost of about Rs. 92 crore, and Rs. 50 crore have now been allocated for it. The foundation stone for the said project has also been laid. I would urge upon our hon. Railway Minister to take immediate steps to complete this project so that the passengers are not put to further hardship.

With these words, I compliment the Railway Budget. I would once again congratulate the Railway Minister for putting teamwork to bring this noteworthy and admirable Railway Budget for the benefit of the people.

DR. BABU RAO MEDIYAM (BHADRACHALAM) : Sir, I thank you very much for allowing me to participate in the discussion on the Railway Budget 2005-06. First of all, I want to congratulate the Railway Ministry headed by Shri Lalu Prasadji for proposing pro-people budget. I feel this Budget is pro-people because (i) it does not propose to raise the passenger and freight charges; (ii) has taken effective measures to reduce accidents, (iii) has introduced 46 new trains, extended 26 trains to further destinations, increased the frequency of ten trains; (iv) given concessions to unemployed youth who are attending the State Government interviews, for those students who are undertaking educational tours, farmers, milk vendors for attending training and seminars. It is pro-people because it has given concession for carrying dead bodies. It has proposed some national projects like Kumarghat to Agartala and Jiribam to Imphal Road, Silchar to Jiribam gauge conversion, Udampur-Srinagar-Baramulla sector, etc. It is pro-people because it has introduced the information technology into various systems of customer services. It has also proposed to introduce Integrated Railway Modernisation Plan for New Delhi to Howrah and New Delhi to Chennai sectors. It has proposed to introduce Metro and MMTS in major cities in India including Hyderabad.

Now I want to focus on some of the anti-people measures of this Budget. Our Railways are growing fast in terms of number of passengers, transportation, and freight. It is also extending to the interior parts of the country. But one thing which is not increasing is the manpower. For example, in the last Budget 30329 regular employees were reduced. If we see the figures for the last five years, the number of employees is increasing by about 44,000 per year. Though the Railways is one of the best public sector industry, it is not providing jobs to the job-seekers. Moreover, this decrease is more drastic in Groups ‘C’ and ‘D’ employees.

It is also pointed out that there is a huge backlog in the category of Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe employees. They were not given proper chances in the recruitment also.

Now, I want to focus on two more issues. Day-by-day, Railways are going towards privatisation and liberalisation. This trend may eat away the pro-people image of this Budget. It has went to the extent of privatising the catering systems by creating Indian Railway Catering and Tourism Corporation Limited. We all know that the catering system was introduced during the period of Lal Bahadur Shastri. But during Laluji’s period, smaller things like running rooms are being privatised, with the result, so many people are losing their jobs. The Pantry Cars are being privatised. A new concept of food plazas is being introduced in the Railways. In the last budget, Laluji introduced earthen pot for supplying tea and coffee. But on the other hand, in this Budget it is proposed that 50 Stations will have food plazas which would not be able to cater to our food culture and habits.

The second point that I wish to make is that the construction of tracks and buildings by the Railways is being privatised. Day by day it is being noticed that the Railways are procuring even the small things that are needed for its modernisation from outside.

Sir, I wish to mention something about safety in the Railways. The Departmental analysis in the Railways has shown that 62 per cent of railway accidents are owing to derailment; 29 per cent of the accidents are owing to unsafe level-crossing; 4 per cent of the accidents are due to collision and 3 per cent are owing to miscellaneous reasons. But to my surprise I find that only anti-collision devices have been introduced in the Railways to strengthen the safety system. When it has been analysed that 91 per cent of the accidents in the Railways occur due to derailment and unsafe level-crossings, the Ministry is proposing to tackle only 4 per cent of accidents by putting in place the anti-collision devices. I am not against introduction of anti-collision devices in the Railways. But it is a very irrational approach. When 91 per cent of accidents in the Railways are taking place because of derailment and unsafe level crossing, the Railways are spending lots of money to tackle only 4 per cent of accidents by introducing anti-collision devices. I would like to urge upon the Ministry to stop such kind of meaningless expenditure.

Moreover, the inspection system of the Railways has also become very unscientific. Earlier, there were periodic checks and inspection of both passenger and goods trains after a train has travelled some 400 to 500 kilometres. But now trains are inspected only after it has travelled a distance of around 2,000 kilometres. Such irregular checks and inspections make the trains more prone to accidents. Presently, up to a limit of 2000 kilometres, there is no inspection of trains. This is also one of the causes for the increasing number accidents in the Railways.

Sir, in regard to the working hours of the Group `C’ and Group `D’ employees in the Railways I would like to submit that there is an eight hour working norm in our country. But employees in the Railways are working for about 12 to 14 hours. They are given overtime for this. The internationally accepted norm for running staff is six hours. But in the Railways, they are working for about ten hours. I would like to request the Ministry to negotiate this matter with the trade unions in the Railways. There are trade unions in the Railways but they are rarely consulted on matters of improving the railway system in the country.

Sir, the State of Andhra Pradesh covers two zones – the South Central Zone and the East Coast Zone. In the previous year, both the zones together contributed about Rs. 3324 crore to the Railways. But the allotment made to the State in this Budget is a meagre Rs. 340 crore. I feel that it is a very irrational allocation. There must be a zone-wise policy that the zones that are contributing much to the revenue to the Railways should at least get 50 per cent of their contribution as allocation in the Budget. The State of Andhra Pradesh is contributing much by way of revenue to the Railways but are getting less in comparison to its contribution.

Sir, I am happy that seven new trains have been proposed to be introduced for the State of Andhra Pradesh. But at the same time I would like to submit that many new proposals have not been taken up. Recently, the hon. Minister of State for Railways, Shri Velu, had opened a new track between Kakinada and Kotipalli. But it is of no use to the local people unless this line is extended up to Narasapuram via Amalapuram. We all know that now Amalapuram is the base of ONGC activity. Now, this railway route that is being proposed to Narasapuram will help this ONGC activity to gather momentum.

Sir, some of the surveys have been completed and updated in my constituency, namely, Bhadrachalam. It is the abode of Lord Sri Rama. It is an interior place in Andhra Pradesh and it is not getting railway connectivity since long. There was a survey conducted and updated last year between Kovvur and Bhadrachalam. There is another route from Pandurangapuram to Sarapaka. But this line has also not been allocated any funds.

Sir, I would like to request the Railway Ministry to allot some funds to these projects in my constituency in this Budget.

16.00 hrs.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You have spoken for more than ten minutes. Please conclude.

2MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You have already spoken for more than 15 minutes. Please conclude now.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Ram Kripal Yadav, please conclude now. There are some more speakers from your party. Do you not want to save time for them?

SHRI RAM KRIPAL YADAV (PATNA): …*

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Whatever he said will not go on record.

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SHRI BRAJA KISHORE TRIPATHY (PURI) : * Hon’ble Sir, I am submitting my speech on Railway Budget as per your direction, which is like this:

Sir, as you are aware Orissa is located in the East Coast of India and has population of 3,68 crores and having an area of 1,56,000 kms. the State has one of the lowest per capital income coupled with inadequate rail infrastructure albeit having endowed with abundant mineral resources like iron ore, chrome, bauxite and manganese, etc. Against the national average of 19 kms/1000 sq. kms., Orissa has a route length of 15.03 kms. only. Neighbouring States like Bihar and West Bengal have a railway route length of the extent of 30 kms. and 42 kms. respectively, in near future various corporate houses will invest for setting up of Mega Steel Plants and the generation of additional traffic in the State is expected to be 40 million tones by 2010. The establishment of a spearate zonal railway headquarters at Bhubandeswar, i.e. East Coast Railway has generated substantial revenue for Indian Railways. During 2003-04 East Coast Railway made an income of Rs. 2258/- crores due to enormous movement of traffic and has surpassed the income by another Rs. 105/- crores made during first 9 months of 2004-05. The traffic flow to one of the major ports, i.e. Paradeep and two proposed international ports at Gopalpur and Dhamara will be increased sharply and to meet the voluminous requirement adequate infrastructural development of Railways in Orissa, higher investment by your Ministry is imperative.

* Speech was laid on the Table.

East Coast Railways was made operational from 1st April, 2003 with Sambalpur, Khurda Road and Waltair Divisions. The jurisdiction of the Sambalpur division has been reduced affecting the viability of the division. To ensure Sambalpur division as profit centre, the Ministry of Railways is requested that its territorial jurisdiction to include the (a) Jharsughuda-Himgir, (b) Jharsuguda-Barsuan/Kiriburu (c) Rourkela-Nuagaon sections. East Coast Railways had transported 64 million tones freight in 2003-04. The operating ratio is 63% perhaps one of the lowest in the Indian Railways. It is necessary that all requirements of infrastructural development for East Coast Railways should be expeditiously completed. At present since Sundargarh district has got tremendous potential for Iron Ore and other minerals, Ministry of Railways may consider creation of new division with Headquarters either at Rourkela or at Jharsuguda with jurisdiction of Jharsuguda-Himgir, Jharsuguda-Barsuan/Kiriburu and Rourkela-Nuagaon sections.

The Government of Orissa has recently presented a memorandum to the Ministry of Railways for allotment of Rs. 780 crore towards ongoing projects like B.G., Rail Links, Gauge conversion, doubling and electrification etc. during 2005-06. The Ministry should complete the sanctioned projects Rs. 4825.99 crore within next 5 years and make the State of Orissa profit centre for the Ministry of Railways. I would like to request Hon’ble Railway Minister through you to allot funds for 2005-06 for the following lines :

New lines : 1) Daitari-Banspani; 2) Lanjigarh Road-Junagarh; 3) Khurda Road-Bolangir; 4) Haridaspur-Paradeep; 5) Angul-Duburi-Sukinda Raod; 6) Talcher-Bimalagarh

Electrification : 1) Kharagpur-Nimpura-Bhubaneswar; 2) Bhubaneswar-Visakhapatnam

Gauge Conversion : 1) Rupsa-Bangirposi; 2) Naupada-Gunupur

Doubling : 1) Nirgundi-Cuttack-Raghunathpur; 2) Rahama-Paradeep; 3) Titilagarh-Lanjigarh Road; 4) Raja Athagarh-Nirgundi; 5) Rahama Raj Athagarh-Baranga; 7) 2nd Bridge on Birupa & Mahanadi; 8) Khurda Road-Puri; 9) Cuttack Baranga; 10) Khurda-Baranga 3rd Line; 11) Sambalpur-Rengali; 12) Jharsuguda Byepass

Sir, I would also like to elaborate some of the major projects in Orissa, which deserve immediate attention of the Railways.

Khurda Road-Puri railway track is of 100 years old and is the only railway line connecting Shri Jagannath Dham. The track is already 100% saturated. Though phase I work of the track had begun 4 years back, yet no satisfactory progress has been made so far and there is no sanction for phase II work. Although the project was sanctioned long back for an amount of Rs. 47.29 crores, no progress has been made so far. In this Budget 2005-06, only Rs. 10/- core has been earmarked, which is inadequate for completion of this project. Considering Puri as a national and international tourist centre the doubling work may be undertaken expeditiously.

This rail link was sanctioned in 1992-93 and to be completed in March, 2005. Since the industrial scenario has been changed in the area dramatically and private parities are interested to set up Steel Plants in a big way. Ministry of Railways, therefore, is requested to sanction doubling of Daitari-Bansani B.G. Rail links in 2005-06 and also sanction electrification in view of the fact that East Coast from Bhubaneswar-Palasa has already been electrified.

Talcher-Sambalpur B.G. rail link was commissioned in the year 1998 which has reduced the distance from Bhubaneswar-New Delhi by 150 kms. The Ministry of Railways is, therefore, requested to sanction doubling of Talcher B.G. rail links.

It is also requested that doubling of Nirgundi-Cuttack-Ragunathpur, Rahama-Paradeep Rail line may be doubling of Nirgundi-Cuttack-Ragunathpur, Rahama-Paradeep Rail line may be completed at the earliest. Titlagarh-Lanjigarh road, Raj Athagarh-Nirgundi, Raghunathpur-Gorakhnath, Rahama-Raj Athagar- Barang, 2nd Bridge on Birupa & Mahanadi, Cuttuck-Barang, Khurda-Barang 3rd Linem, Sambalpur-Rengali, Jharsufguda Byepass railway lines which had in progress may be expedited for early completion. The allocation of 0.01 crore each to in Budget 2005-06 for doubling of Raghunathpur-Gorakhpur-Rahama, Rajaathagarh-Nirgundi and Rahama-Paradeep Lines is like peanut. Doubling of Nirgundi-Cuttack-Raghunathpur require Rs. 15/- crore whereas in the present Budget Rs. 8.97/- crore has been allotted. Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the doubling of Titilagarh-Lanjigahr Road a demand of Rs. 250/- crore was made by the Government of Orissa, whereas the only Rs. 10/- core has been allotted. Mr. Speaker, Sir, for doubling of Rahama-Rajaathagarh-Baranga Line, Second Bridge on Birupa and Mahanadi, Cuttack-Baranga Line and Khurda-Baranga third line in the present Budget – 2005-06 Rs. 30 crore, Rs. 28.60 core, Rs. 30 crore and Rs. 30 respectively has been allotted, which will be entrusted to Rail Vikash Nigam Ltd. (RVNL). The past experience shows RVNL doesn’t spend more than 5% of the total allotment and the same is an eye wash on the part of Railways so far as the allotment for the doubling of these projects in Orissa is concerned. Allocation of Rs. 10.70 crore for doubling of Sambalpur-Rengali Line is totally inadequate.

Work for electrification is in progress from Kharagpur-Bhubaneswar. At stretch of 200 kms between Palasa to Bhubaneswar was commissioned on 27.03.04. Ministry of Railways is requested to allot Rs. 100 crores against sanctioned amount in Rs.71 crores in 2004-05, keeping in view the progress and early completion. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am peeved at allocation of Rs. 0.1/- crore for Koraput-Rayagarh electrification project Rs.0.1 crore to Talacher-Sambalpur project and Rs. 5/- core for Bhubaneswar-Kotabhalsa project. No allocation has been made against Bhubaneswar-Vishkhapatnam and Khargpur-Nimapura-Bhubaneswar and surprisingly this has been made against demand of Rs. 100 crores by Government of Orissa.

Khurda Road-Bolangir : The land acquisition is in progress and work is expected to commence from Khurda by March, 2005. Ministry of Railways is requested for allotment of Rs. 70/- crore for 2005-06 for construction and land acquisition in six districts. In the Budget 2005-06 only Rs. 10/- crores has been allotted, which is very small amount against the projected demand of Rs. 70/- crores for 2005-06.

Haridashpur-Paradeep : The projected traffic flow for steel plants in Duburi-Kalinga Nagar complex is expected to rise by 2010. Ministry of Railways is requested to allot 40 cores. Against this demand only Rs. 20/- crores has been allocated.

Angul-Duburi-Sukinda Road : The final location survey for this project has been completed and land acquisition will commence shortly. Ministry of Railways is requested to allocate Rs.20 cores of 2005-06 to enable land acquisition. Against this demand of only Rs. 0.10 crore has been allocated.

Talcher-Bimlagarh : Project has been sanctioned in the year 2004-05 and land acquisition work is to be commenced. Ministry of Railways is requested allocation for Rs. 10 crores for 2005-06. Against this demand of Rs. 10./- crores in the Budget, only Rs. 5/- crore has been allocated.

Lanjigarh Road-Junagarh : All private and Government land between Lanjigarh-Bhawanipatna have been handed over for construction. Earth work is in progress in all the sections. Since some private parties are setting up of Alumina/Aluminium Plants. Ministry of Railways is requested to make a provision of Rs. 80 crores for 2005-06 for construction between Lanjigarh-Bhawanipatana as well as land acquisition work between Bhawanipatna-Junagarh. Mr. Speaker, Sir, against the request for provision of Rs. 80/- crore, only Rs. 8/- core has been allocated.

Daitari-Bansapani Rail Links : All the private, forest and Government land have been handed over for construction. Work is in progress from Keonjhar to Tomka. It is imperative that Daitary-Bansapani Rail links should be completed by December, 2005 in view of number of steel plants are under construction in Duburi complex. Ministry of Railways is requested to allot funds from its own resources for 2005-06. Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is one of the projected like line so far as Rail link is concern. Even though, Rs. 128.61/- crore has been allocated in the present Budget 2005-06 the work has been assigned to RVNL, which at best can spent 5% of the total allocation given by its tardy past record.

Rupsa-Bangiriposi conversion work is under progress. Ministry of Railways is requested to allot Rs. 60 crore for 2005-06 and complete the conversion at the earliest. As against the demand for Rs. 60/- crore merely Rs. 3/- crore has been allocated.

Nuapara-Gunupur conversion work has commenced with land acquisition. Final location survey has been completed. Ministry of Railways is requested Rs. 50 crores for 2005-06. As against the demand of Rs. 50/- crore, only Rs. 5 crore has been allotted.

Sir, I would also like to request to Hon’ble Minister for Railways through you for sanction of five new B.G. Rail Link for 2005-06.

Conversion and extension of Nuapada-Gunupur B.G. Rail Link to Theruvali : A traffic survey was completed in March, 1999 for extension of the converted Nuapada-Gunupur B.G. Rail Link to Theruvali with a favourable rate of return. The extension will enable import and export of cargo via Gopalpur Port. Although this, project has been incorporated in the Budget speech of the Hon’ble Railway Minister, no budgetary provision has been made in this regard.

Jeypore-Malkangiri : This broad gauge rail link which a survey report has been submitted to Ministry of Railways forms a part of the most backward of Orissa, i.e. KBK area, which has been accorded special status by Government of India for speedy development. This requires immediate implementatin.

The survey report of Talcher-Gopalpur broad gauge rail link line submitted to Ministry of Railways indicated a favourable rate of return. The recent thrust of industrialization with setting up of a steel, power and aluminium plants would require a dedicated railway link between Talcher to Gopalpur (Special Economic Zone) for export and import of raw material and finished products. No action has been taken in the present Budget.

Bargarh-Nuapada via Padmapur : Survey for this Borad gauge rail link was completed and report submitted to the Ministry of Railways. Rail infrastructure in Western Orissa is not developed adequately despite a large number of industries and heavy production of foodgrains. The B.G. Rail link will traverse through acutely backward areas of the State, and ensure economic development.

Puri-Konark : Puri attracts thousands of pilgrims to visit the temploe of Lord Jagannath regularly. The famous Sun Temple is located at Konark. This monument is famous throughout the world and is visited by millions of tourists every year. Considering all these aspects a survey was completed for construction of New B.G. Rail Link between Puri-Knoark on the year 1997. This link will facilitate visits by the tourists and pilgrims to the last link of the golden triangel.

For Bargarh-Nuapada via Padmapur and Puri-Konark although Hon’ble Railway Minister has announced for further detailed survey, no funds have beem allocated.

I would also request to Hon’ble Railway Minister through you for sanction of five surveys for 2005-06.

Gopalpur-Rayagada : All Bauxite deposits are located in Rayagada and Kalahandi area. Recently, Government of Orissa has signed number of Memorandums of Understanding (MOU) for setting up of Aluminium industries for production of Alumina and Aluminium. Therefore, sanction of a survey to cater to the traffic that will be generated.

Jaleswar-Digha : Digha is a popular beach resort which will be connected from Tamluk. It is necessary that a survey be sanctioned from Jaleswar to Digha a stretch of 40 kms. so that the vast areas in Bhogarai and Jaleswar to Diha a stretch of 40 kms. so that the vast areas in Bhogarai and Jaleswar Block can be connected. Although this project has been announced, no funds have been allocated.

Jaipur Keonjha Raod-Jajpur : Biraja Khetra at Jajpur town is a famous place of pilgrimage in India at par with Dwaraka and Kasi. A large number of pilgrims visit this area regularly. The Ministry of Railways is requested to sanction a survey for extension of the East Coast Railway line from Jajpur-Keonjhar road to Jajpur.

Gorumahisani to Buramara : Work is in progress for gauge conversion of Rupsa-Bangiriposi N.G. Rail Link. However, a survey may be sanctioned for linking Gorumahisani on Tata-badampahar B.G. Rail Link to Burmara on Rupsa-Bangiriposi Rail Link.

Badampahar to Keonjhar : A survey to be sanctioned between Badampahar to Keonjhar which shall link the rich iron ore area with Tatanagar.

Sir, the State of Orissa is far short of number of Trains in proportion to its area and population, I would like to request the Hon’ble Railway Minister through you for introduction of several new trains and other amenities for passengers benefit.

Super-fast Express from Puri-Jaipur: There is no direct train service from Puri to pink city of Jaipur. Introduction of a Train Services from Puri-Jaipur, via – Sambalpur and Raipur will enable tourists and pilgrims from Central and Western India to come to Orissa and this service will enable tourists and pilgrims from Central and Western India to come to Orissa and this service will immensely benefit people of western Orissa. Although Jaiur-Bilashpur Express Train has been extended to Bhubaneswar in the Budget Speech of Railway Minister, this train should further to be extended to Puri.

Super-fast Express from Sambalpur to Allahabad : There is no direct train from Sambalpur to Allahabad in order to met the growing demand of traffic from Western Orissa. Introduction of a train from Sambalpur to Allahabad via-Ranchi and Gaya will enable the people of Western Orissa to visit important places of pilgrimage.

Super-fast Express Train from Bhubaneswar to Kanyakumari : There is no direct train originating from Bhubaneswar to South India. A train from Bhubaneswar to Kanyakumari via Chennai shall go a long way in carrying pilgrims and tourists from Orissa to various places in South India.

Inter City Express between Koraput and Rourkela via Rayagada : The Raipur-Vizianagram-Koraput Kirandul B.G. rail link passes through the most backward areas of the State like Koraput, Bolangir and Sundergarh. An Inter City Express linking Rourkela with these areas of this State will give the much needed impetus for business and commerce of the area.

Express Train from Titilagarh to Puri, via – Sambalpur : Presently, there is no direct train from Titilagarh area to cater the needs of Western Orissa. Introduction of Express Train on this route will provide relief to the people and also ensure emotional, social integration with coastal Orissa.

Express Train from Visakhapatnam to Howarh-Titilagarh, Raipur and Bilaspur : The area from Visakhapatnam to Titilagarh is backward and requires additional train services to ensure increase of commerce and trading with neighbouring States.

New Puri-Hyderabad Express and New Puri-Chennai Express : There is no direct train link from pilgrim centre of Puri famous for Lord Jagannath to South India. To direct trains from Puri-Hyderabad and Puri-Chennai will fabulously benefit pilgrims of South India and people of Puri.

Introduction of EMU Services : Electrification work between Khargpur-Bhubaneswar is in progress and stretch of 200 kms between Palasa to Bhubaneswar has been commissioned. Ministry of Railways is requested to introduce fast moving EMU trains from Puri-Palasa and Puri-Balasore to cater to the need of passengers of Puri- Khurda Road – Bhubaneswar and Balasore.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to request the Hon. Railway Minister through you for increasing in frequency of the existing trains.

Visakhapatnam – Nizamuddin Express Train may be increased to daily from 3 days in a week to cater the need of passengers travelling from Western Orissa to the capital of India. The frequency of New Delhi – Bhubaneswar Rajadhani Express may be increased from 4 days to 7 days in a week. In remaining three days the Rajdhani Express may be run via – Sambalpur and Vizianagaram may be increased to facilitate journey of large number of workers from Orissa employed in Gujarat. It is requested that the frequency of this train via-Sambalpur may be increased to thrice a week and via-Vizianagarm to four days in a week. The frequency of Bhubaneswar-Kurla Express may be increased to three days in a week. The frequency of Bhubaneswar – Kurla Express may be increased to three days in a week. This train is immensely popular by passengers travelling from Western Orissa. Frequency of Puri-Triupati Express which is running once in a week may be increased and converted it as a daily. Since large number of fishermen folk are visiting Puri and have business connections , the Puri-Tirupati Express may be having an additional stoppage at ””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””Tuni”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””” Railway Station under South Central Railway.

Extension of Trains : At present there is no direct train available for the people of South Orissa for linking New Deli the capital of India. The Ministry of Railways is requested to extend the Bhubaneswar-Nizamuddin Express to Visakhapatnam with more coaches in order to cater to passengers from Palasa, Barhampur, Chhatrapur and Balugaon. The introduction of Bhubaneswar-Banagalore Express has helped in IT education and medical treatment for the students and people of Orissa. The Ministry of Railways is requested to extend the Bangalore-Visakhapatnam Express to Bhubaneswar or alternately increase the frequency of Bhubaneswar – Bangalore Express as daily.

The Ministry of Railway has introduced an express train from Sambalpur to Raipur. This may by extended to Puri as this will facilitate a direct link between the capitals of two States. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am requesting the Hon. Railway Minister through you that even though the existing Hirakund Express from Nizamuddin to Bhubaneswar has been extended up to Visakhapatnam considering its long distance provision of pantry car may be made, introduction of three tier AC and the frequency should be increased in from 3 days in a week to daily service.

Passenger amenities : Ministry of Railways has requested for increase in passenger amenities for Orissa with the creation of East Coat Railways and its headquarters established in Bhubaneswar the aspiration of people of Orissa for better infrastructural developments of the stations has increased manifold. The Ministry of Railways is requested to improve passenger amenities at Puri, Titilagarh, Rayagarha, Raigarha, Koraput, Kessinga, Chattarpur, Balugaon, Jaleswar and Balangir Stations. The Ministry is also requested to further increase the network computerized reservation at Baragarh, Sakhigopal, Kuhudi, Kalupadaghat, Balugaon, Chattrapur, Hirakud, Khariar Road, Jaleswar and Sora Stations. Janakidelpur Railway Station may be developed as a full-fledged Railway Station to cater for a large chunk of people.

Establishment of passenger halt at Indrayumna, Puri : I would like to brief you on this project that for the establishment of a passenger halt at Indradyumna near Puri under Khurda Road Division, the Railways had conducted a survey and asked for certain information. Though the necessary information has been provided to the Railways and the proposal is a financially viable one, no further progress has been made.

Production of Pantry Car : Some long distant trains originating from are not provided with Pantry services, Ministry of Railways is requested pantry car services for Bhubaneswar-Bangalore Express (8415/8416). Bhubaneswar – Kurla Express 1045/1046 and Puri-Tirupati Express (8439/8440).

Coaching Terminals : Orissa has only one coaching terminal at Bhubaneswar, which is land locked and inhibits expansion. This terminal should be expanded in order to accommodate more number of trains.

The Coaching Terminal at Puri, which has been closed, may be revived in order to accommodate more number of trains. Proper coaching terminals may be developed Barhampur, Sambalpur and Koraput.

At length, I would request through you Mr. Speaker, Sir, for sanction of Rs. 780 crores for the ongoing projects and for the new lines in the ensuring Railway Budget for 2005-06 and for completion of the sanctioned project of Rs. 4825.99 crores during next five years which will go a long way in developing infrastructure for the Railways in the State of Orissa and culminate in overall economic growth of the State.

SHRI N.Y. HANUMANTHAPPA (CHITRADURGA): *While congratulating Shri Lalu Prasad Yadavji, hon. Minister of Railways for his popular and people’s Railway Budget presented on 26.2.2005, I like to bring to the notice of the Government of India a few shortfalls in respect of State of Karnataka.

There is no proper allocation of funds to Karnataka State. No proposals for new lines in the State of Karnataka. There is also no mention of modernization of some of the railway stations and yards in his Budget Speech.

Chitradurga district of State of Karnataka is highly backward district. It is declared as drought-affected area. There are no industries of any kind in the district. Majority of the people belong to poorer sections of the society and unemployed. For transportation of goods and passengers, they have to depend upon trucks and buses which they cannot afford as the freight charges and bus fares are very high.

The Government of India will be helping a lot if the following works are undertaken soon:

(1) Earlier, there was a proposal to open a new railway line from Tumkur to Chitradurga via Sira & Hiriyur which in turn connect Bangalore & Davanagere and Bellary vice-versa. Hence, this has to be considered for holding survey.

(2) (a) There is a need to open a workshop or coach factory between Chitradurga and Chellakere.

(b) It would be useful to open concrete sleepers work between Chellakere and Molkalmurn where the Government can get abundant raw material.

Opening of these two factors will help the poorer section of the people to get jobs.

(3) Modernisation of Chitradurga and Hosadurga railway station and the yard, as the existing are one not serving the public effectively and usefully.

Open reservation counters at Chellakere and Molkalmurn railway stations.

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Open Railway school from Ist standard to 10th Standard and Railway Hospital at Chitradurga.

Chitradurga has an historical fort, the kind of which cannot be found nowhere in the country. It is situated at the centre of the State from where a tourist can go to the important tourist centres of the State within 3 to 4 hours. The other centres are Vijayanagar (Hampi), Badami, Banavasi, Jhole, Pattadakal, Halebeedu and Belur. Thus, it has potentiality of becoming an important tourist centre provided works suggested above are undertaken.

Government of India is requested to undertake the works suggested at an early date.

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SHRI P.C. GADDIGOUDAR (BAGALKOT) : * Sir, I would like to present the burning problem in my Constituency regarding the gauge conversion work between Bijapur-Gadag.

Sir, as per the original plan, the conversion of 330 km. Hutagi (Sholapur) Gadag metre gauge line into broad gauge should have been completed by 1998. While launching the gauge conversion work at Bijapur in 1993, the then Railway Minister, Jaffer Sharief had announced that he would ensure that the work would be completed before the time frame set for the commissioning the project. After his exit, the conversion was completed only up to Bijapur by that deadline.

The project was put on the fast track once again when Shri Basanagouda Patil Yatnal became the Railway Minister. Shri Yatnal claimed that the project would be completed by March, 2005.

Sir, Bijapur-Gadag conversion work was given momentum during 2003-04 after the commitment made by the Karnataka Government for sharing of the cost of the gauge conversion on 50:50 basis. The MG train services have been suspended since February, 2004 onwards for completing the gauge conversion work between Bijapur and Bagalkot section.

Sir, the State Government of Karnataka has failed to release the required amount for completion of gauge conversion work between Bijapur-Bagalkot section. Several organisations staged dharna for expediting the proposed broad gauge work and release of the matching grant as per its cost sharing agreement with the Railways.

Sir, during the dharna, Revenue and Police Department have initiated the Indian Penal Code (IPC) 144. The Police people have arrested and chargesheeted so many leaders along with the sitting MLA of Bagalkot. They had been detained

in jail also. On 21st of December, 2004, under the leadership of Shri Anant

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Kumar, we have submitted the memorandum to the hon. Prime Minister, Dr. Manmohan Singh Ji.

Sir, after knowing this situation, hon. Chief Minister has agreed to release Rs. 30 crore, the said amount is also not released.

Sir, the expanding of soil work was completed, small works of bridges between Bijapur and Bagalkot had been completed. The major work of Doni River bridge is completed and Malaprabha bridge work would be shortly completed.

Sir, due to the construction of the Narayanpur and Almathi reservoirs, nearly 168 villages get submerged and land to the extent of 87,631 hectares. Under the two reservoirs, major portion of the Bagalkot township is also being affected.

Sir, in my constituency, a large number of farmers have lost the fertile land as well as their employment. For generating and providing employment, the industrialists should come forward for setting up of the industries but unless the conversion of the gauge work is completed the industrialists are not coming forward.

Sir, in the present Budget, it is clearly mentioned that the target is to complete the conversion work from Bijapur to Bosavan-Bagewadi by March, 2005, rest is not fixed. Sufficient fund has not been allocated for the said project. North Karnataka is completely neglected. Hence, my humble request is that the hon. Railway Minister should allocate the adequate funds for completion of gauge conversion from Bijapur to Gadag.

I would like to thank the Chair for giving me this opportunity.

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SHRI IQBAL AHMED SARADGI (GULBERGA) : *Sir, I would like to compliment the UPA Government and the Railway Ministry for presenting a pro-people Budget, which did not increase fares, extended the concessions to the farmers, students, unemployed youths and to the persons from the rural areas employed in the cooperative fields like dairy and rural-based cottage industries.

At the same time, I would like to bring to the notice of the hon. Minister that the Budget allocation of Rs. 4.50 crore for the ongoing new railway line from Bidar to Gulbarga is not adequate. Last year, Rs. 15 crore have been allotted and the same has been utilised. Hence the proposed allocation may be increased up to Rs.50 crores. This is one of the important railway lines from Gulbarga to Delhi, which will reduce five hours journey from Gulbarga to Delhi after its completion.

I would like to bring to the notice of the hon. Minister that there is a long-pending demand to set up a Divisional Headquarters of the Railway in Gulbarga to cater to the needs of the Hyderabad-Karnataka region. Earlier almost 21 Members of Parliament of Lok Sabha have represented in this regard. In spite of a genuine demand, the Railway Budget did not concede the establishment of the DRM office at Gulbarga. Hence, I suggest to include this proposal to set up a DRM office at Gulbarga.

I would like to suggest the long-pending proposal to introduce a new railway line Munirabad-Mahboob Nagar and Raichur-Gadwal. These proposals are yet to take off in a substantial manner. So, I suggest to include these two railway lines, which have been already surveyed.

The Karnataka State needs Rs. 4284 crore, including about Rs. 250 crore as the State Government’s share for completing 20 projects being implemented by the South Western Railway and the South Central Railway. The investment shows the considerable decline in the Budget allocation for the current year for which

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reconsideration for enhancing in the Budget allocation is essential to implement the pending proposals in the larger interest of the Hyderabad-Karnataka area.

In addition to the above said proposals, I would like to suggest to introduce a new Shatabdi Express Train in between Mumbai-Bangalore. The traffic in between Mumbai-Bangalore is increasing considerably for the last one decade. Hence, this new proposal may kindly be included.

I would like to propose the conversion of the Yaswantpur-bijapur Train to a daily service, which would reduce the rush on Udyan Express and would be convenient for the people of Mumbai-karnataka and Hyderabad-Karnataka area.

Gulbarga is centrally located from Mumbai, Chennai, Bangalore and Hyderabad. The number of incoming and outgoing Railway passengers from Gulbarga Railway Station are much more higher than Sholapur Division. Hence, I propose to set up a Divisional Headquarters Office and a Railway Workshop at Gulbarga.

Once again, I compliment the UPA Government and the Railway Ministry for presenting a pro-people Budget.

SHRI SHRINIWAS DADASAHEB PATIL (KARAD) : *Sir, I hereby table my demands on Railways, which need immediate attention of the House:

Starting new comupterised reservation centre at Islampur Tehsil-Walwa District: Sangli (Maharashtra) on Central Railway;

Starting city reservation centre in Karad town in addition to the centre at Karad Railway Station;

Raising of platform in front of administrative building at Karad Railway Station;

Construction of shed over loading platform at Karad to facilitate loading of sugar in rainy season;

Starting new trains from Kolhapur to Dwarka once a week;

A super-fast train between Pune to Bangalore may be started connecting these two IT cities;

One 3A coach may be added to 2779/2780 Goa Express. AT present there are two 2A coaches and only one 3A coach;

1A coach may be added to Mahalaxmi Express; and

Develop Takri Railway Station at Central Railway in Pune – Miraj Section by extending the platform to full length.

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PROF. BASUDEB BARMAN (MATHURAPUR) : *Sir, I would like to draw yo2ur kind attention and, through you, the kind attention of the hon. Members, to the plight of the people of the Sundarbans (Districts North 24 Parganas and South 24 Parganas) of West Bengal. My parliamentary constituency 16 Mathurapur (SC) forms the most extensive part of it. Due to non-availability of adequate railway service facilities, I, on their behalf, representing the people of the said area, beg to place before the House some of their demands. I also request the hon. Railway Minister for due consideration of the same and appropriate decisions thereto at the earliest.

I would like to request for the extension of railway network facilities for Jayanagar to Raidighi; Canning to Sonakhali; Jayanagar to Jamtala; and Park Circus to Dhamakhali. I would also like to request the hon. Railway Minister to introduce two pairs of additional local trains on daily basis for Sealdah-Diamond Harbour Section; Sealdah-Lakshimikantapur-Kakdwip Section; and Sealdah-Canning Section. I would like to request him for the immediate inauguration of train service to Namkhana Railway Station. The work is almost completed in Sealdah-Lakshimkantapur-Kakdwip-Namkhana Section.

Now, I would like to request him for laying of double lines, is the Baruipur-Diamond Harbour Section, of which Bauripur-Magrahat sub-section requires immediate attention. The passengers from the adjoining areas suffer very badly due to heavy pressure on the single track. Besides this, Baruipur-Lakshimikantapur-Kakdwip Section and Sonarpur-Canning Section require introduction of double lines. A halt station at Madhavnagar Road between Nishindapur and Kashinagar Stations in Sealdah-Kakdwip Section is to be set up.

I would like to request him for the proper maintenance of the railway platforms. Most of them are in a very bad shape, and require immediate repair and

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renovation. I may also draw his attention towards proper cleaning of the platforms and toilets; every 24 hours, they may be cleaned at least three times. Besides this, proper cleaning of the train compartments, preferably on completion of journey of a train from the originating station to the destination needs urgent attention of the hon. Minister. Provisions should also be made for toilet facilities and running water in all the local trains, especially in the EMU units; due to lack of proper facilities, the aged people, in particular, faces inconvenience, embarrassment and difficulty in such trains.

I would like to request him to provide adequate lighting at the platforms and their proper maintenance. Provisions may also be made for safe drinking water facilities, toilets, sitting spaces along with electric fans on the platforms. These are some of the urgent needs of the passengers which require immediate attention and appropriate action.

SHRIMATI JYOTIRMOYEE SIKDAR (KRISHNAGAR) : *Sir, I may kindly be allowed to lay the following matter on the Table of the House. There is genuine grievance of the larger section of the people of my Parliamentary Constituency, 11 Krishnagar, in the State of West Bengal in regard to railway services, and on their behalf, I beg to place before the House the following demands and request the Railway Minister for proper consideration of the same and appropriate decision thereto:

Laying of railway line from Krishnanagar to Karimpur – Sealdah Division – in the District of Nadia, West Bengal;

Stoppage of Bhagirathi Express at Debagram Station;

Double line for the Krishnanagar to Lalgola station;

Computerised Reservation Centres at Station and at Tehatta in the District of Nadia;

One additional express train for the Sealdah-Lalgola route under the Sealdah Division;

Provision for and improvement of infrastructural facilities and passenger amenities like: proper platform lighting, toilets, sitting and drinking water arrangements at Krishnanagar, Bahadurpur, Dhubulia, Muragaeha, Bethuadahari, Sonadanga, Debagram, Paglachaudi and Plassey Stations.

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SHRIMATI MINATI SEN (JALPAIGURI) : *Sir, I am very much thankful to you to permit me to highlight the acute railway communication problem concerning Jalpaiguri District as well as North Bengal. The problems, which I am going to speak out, were raised on the floor of Parliament during the NDA Government as well as the present Government. A series of correspondences was made made with the concerned Railway Ministry and its associate organisation.

Sir, Jalpaiguri District is situated in a vulnerable geographical position. The railway network of the District has been neglected ever since partition era.

Jalpaiguri District is the Divisional Headquarter of six Districts of North Bengal. Tea is the key industry of the District and the Government of India earns crore of rupees of foreign exchange, besides substantial amount of excise duties.

Being a Divisional Headquarter, having all important administrative and judicial offices, including higher educational centres, are located here. People from different corners of the District and the State are to attend such organisations/ institutions for various purposes. Permanent Bench of Kolkata High Court is going to start functioning very soon. Tea Auction Centre has already started.

The District itself is the key centre of trade and commerce throughout the length and breadth of the District. There are numerous tourist spots, and many tourist centres are coming up steadily. To set apart, there are four world famous sanctuaries situated in the District, and consequently, these tourist spots and sanctuaries are alluring tourists from the country and abroad.

The tourists are facing immense difficulties for want of proper railway link. The peasants and the cultivators are not in a position to transport their surplus products, resulting in deprivation from the reasonable prices.

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To overcome the difficulties, I would like to raise the following demands to fulfil the long-cherished demands of the Jalpaiguri and its adjacent areas:

Upgradation of Jalpaiguri Road Station (NFR) with all requisite infrastructure, including computerised reservation facilities and stoppage of Mail and Express trains at Jalpaiguri Road Station;

Construction of rail-over bridge at Mohitnagar level crossing on 12th State Highway at Jalpaiguri;

Resumption of both passenger and goods trains from Haldibari to Sealdah through Bangladesh;

To introduce super-fast trains from Haldibari via NJP to Sealdah;

Upgradation of Oodlabari Railway Station (NFR) under Alipurduar DRM to a full-fledged station;

Acceleration of the construction of the railway track from New Maynaguri (W.B.) to Jogikhopa via Baxirhat, Golokganj, Gouripur, Dhubri, Belasipara (Assam);

Conversion from M.G. to B.G. from new Mal to Changra-Bandla through Changrabandha export and import to Bangaladesh by road in operation. Extension of railway track from Changrabandha to New Maynaguri is needed;

Relinquishment of railway land adjacent to Jalpaiguri Railway Station (2.05 acre) on payment for construction of Supermarket by the co-operative societies;

Railway recruitment centre at New Jalpaiguri;

Electrification on the railway line between New Jalpaiguri Road Station and Haldibari;

Renewal of railway pass is to be issued to freedom fighters from nearest railway station instead of Alipurduar to avoid unnecessary harassment;

Repairing works of railway road from Tinbati More to New Jalpaiguri Railway Station and railway roads in Jalpaiguri particularly from 1 No. Ghoomti to 2 No. Ghoomti and the surrounding railway roads, which are in a very deplorable condition; and

Widening of 3 No. Ghoomti at Jalpaiguri Road Station.

Lastly, I support the Budget.

SHRIMATI MANORAMA MADHAVRAJ (UDUPI) : *Sir, when the Railway Budget, 2004 was presented, the newly formed UPA Government had just taken over the reign at the Centre with much less than a year to go for the next full-fledged Budget. Rightly, it was more or less a Vote-on-Account Budget with nothing to expect on major policy changes or structural reforms.

Since then, the UPA Government had enough time to settle down and evolve major policy formulations and programmes. It was, therefore, expected that in the full-fledged Railway Budget for 2005 would hold forth much in major revamp of operational and commercial activities as also enforcement of fiscal discipline to a larger extent.

The Railway Budget, 2005 has belied all these expectations. The fear psychosis that grips the Government on the eve of elections forces it to make it a populist Budget. Now, there being no elections in the immediate future, the Government could have attempted major fare revisions, and curtailment of subsidies, hitherto eating into the Railways earnings. With no let up on price rise of essential commodities, fuel and consumables, the common man would have gracefully accepted any modest revision in rail fares with concomitant improvement in passenger amenities. There is no semblance of any attempt to mobilisation of resources for many on-going projects as also new ones of immediate relevance and priority like acquisition of rolling stock (wagons), and investment on safety equipment like anti-collision device.

To make it more populist and pro-poor, inspired by Nagarjuna Baba’s couplets, the Railway Minister has lavishly bestowed a slew of concessions to students and unemployed.

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Railway finances has not only made it self-sustaining but also has generated enough internal funds for major expansion programmes.

The Railway Minister has announced introduction and extension of train services on many sectors. Most of these services are to become operational only when the on-going gauge conversion works are complete. There, being no major fund allocation for completion of on-going projects including gauge conversion, the fate of these new trains is uncertain. Even during the last Budget, the Railway Minister had introduced many new trains, almost two-thirds of which are still not operational.

When the major gauge conversion projects were launched across the country in early 1990s, it was expected of the successive Governments to set apart funds for the completion of such projects. Mangalore-Hassan link (metre gauge) was dismantled more than a decade ago for gauge conversion. After 13 years, only a part of it could be made operational (Mangalore to Subramanya Road). I understand that this year a meager allocation has been made for Subramanya Road to Sakleshpur. At this rate, the originally envisaged gauge conversion of Mangalore-Hassan will take another 4/5 years. The Konkan Railway link serves Dalshina Kannada only in terms of more passenger connectivity to North along the coast. Major freight traffic of industrial raw material and exportable commodities to New Mangalore Port has been hindered due to delay in completion of Hassan-Mangalore BG link.

I would urge the Government to self-impose a moratorium on new projects and expansion until the on-going projects become operational. I would also ask the Government to assess the loss of revenue both in passenger traffic and freight movement due to disruption of services on sectors where gauge conversion is going on for a long time.

With many on-going projects in limbo, the Minister has announced new surveys on Sathyamangalam-Mettur and Charajnagar-Sathyamangalam-Mettuplayam sectors. To take up these routes, we need to assess the environmental impact on dense forest areas through which these lines are planned.

With major road-highways getting in place throughout the country, the road transport sector is posing a challenge to railway freight traffic business. Railways have already lost a major share of its freight business to road transport sector. The Minister has claimed an improvement of wagon-turn-around time from 7 to 6 hours (time required to empty a loaded wagon and load it again to move out). This is no consolation as major freight movers like coal, cement and fertiliser and also foodgrains (sugar, wheat, rice, etc.) are now facing acute wagon shortage. According to reports, the Railways is facing a wagon shortage of almost 20 per cent of its requirements. It has now re-defined the Condemnation category for wagons and is pressing back into service many wagons earlier condemned and sent to scrap yards.

Major wagon builders both in public and private sector are sitting idle for the last two years for dearth of orders. Because of increase in wheel-and-axle sets prices demanded by overseas suppliers, the Railways have stopped import of wheel-and-axle sets for the last two years. Railways are paying through its nose for the increased fuel (diesel) and power. It should also find ways to meet the price difference in imported wheel-and-axle sets.

The pension liability on Indian Railways is a bomb set to be ticked off any time. With Rs. 12 lakh pensions to pay out to, it needs Rs.7,000 crore annually in reserve. In 1974, an actuarial assessment of pension liabilities was made, and the Railways were asked to set apart funds for pension disbursement every year commensurate with its liabilities. There has been no separate pension fund worth the name, kept in reserve, and all pension disbursements are made from the General Revenue. At this rate, by 2010, almost 60 per cent of the Railways earnings should be sent only on pension.

It astonishes that for almost three decades, no update on actuarial assessment of pension liabilities has been attempted. This is a very serious issue, which left unattended, will loom into a big financial crisis for the Railways in the near future.

On safety front, the record of the Railways is pathetic. It has been established that more than 60 per cent of major accidents were caused by human (staff) errors, and less than 10 per cent were caused due to equipment failures/mal-functioning, namely, signaling and radio-communication.

Take for instance the proposed installation of Anti-Collision Device developed by Konkan Railway Corporation. This in-house invention has great potential for commercial exploitation and also exports markets. After successful field trials, Anti-Collision Device was supposed to be introduced on all dense-traffic routes. The total outlay for this comes only to Rs. 1,600 crore against the Special Railway Safety Fund of Rs. 17,000 crore. Yet, no action has been taken in this regard.

A part of the Central Road Fund collected by the Centre (through a cess on petrol and diesel) comes to Railways for constructing ROBs and RUBs (Railway Over/Under Bridges on road intersections). ROBs and RUBs save money on upkeep of manned railway level crossings. During 2004-05, Railways got a sum of Rs. 710.81 crore on CRF account. Earlier, in 2003-04, Railways could build only 27 ROBs/RUBs out of a total sanctioned number of 424 ROBs/RUBs. Thus, a major portion of CRF is diverted elsewhere.

The newly introduced IT-related facilities like Internet booking, and new/ extended trains give the Budget only a cosmetic effect. Unless existing train movements get streamlined, the traffic addition in passenger (Mail/Express/Passenger) traffic will adversely affect the operations of freight trains. With 62 paise for every rupee earned by the Railways come from freight traffic (this is also used to cross-subsidised passenger fares), Railways could ill-afford to neglect the freight factor which is under a severe threat from road transport sector.

A middle class citizen, who constitutes a major chunk of full-fare paying passengers, is not enthused by this Budget. In the garb of relief (no increase in fares), he is denied the benefit of improvements in amenities (less over-crowding, more sanitation and cleanliness on board) and punctuality in operations. With so many concessions announced on already bursting subsidy baggage, it would be interesting to know the exact share of full-fare tickets/free tickets. To my assessment, it could be as low as 20 per cent or even lower.

We need to inject a semblance of professionalism in Railway administration including its fiscal systems. The Rajesh Mohan Commission had laboriously gone into these aspects. Its report now is lying in the attic of Rail Bhavan, should be retrieved and worked upon for what it is worth.

I would still commend this innocuous Budget for due ratification by this House.

SHRI CHENGARA SURENDRAN (ADOOR) : *Sir, I support the Railway Budget presented by hon. Railway Minister with a heavy heart.

Sir, I would make it clear why I support this Budget with a heavy heart. Nineteen out of 20 total elected Members of this House support this Government. There were long standing demands from the people of Kerala for development of Railway in the State. We, as Members of Parliament, also articulated the demands of the people, and represented the Government when the Budget was under preparation. But, unfortunately, the hon. Railway Minister did not bother to favour the people of Kerala with a positive decision on any of such demands.

Sir, I would like to give a brief account of such unfulfilled demands on the floor of the House on the hope that the hon. Railway Minister would realize the problem, and declare a special railway development package for the State of Kerala.

Sir, a separate Railway zone for Kerala for arranging the development of Railway in Kerala was one of the long standing demands of Kerala. A new train for Kerala known as “Sampark Kranti Express” was announced by the then hon. Railway Minister in his Railway Budget for the year 2004-05. But the same has not been started running so far. In the Railway Budget for 2005-06, the hon. Railway Minister announced 46 new trains. But Kerala has been ignored. There was long pending demand for starting a new train from Bangalore to Trivandrum which was not materialised. As far as demand for extension of trains, extension of ‘Mangla Lakshadweep Express’ from Ernakulam to Trivandrum was prominent. Sir, instead, what we got was ‘bolt in the dark’, i.e., the most prestigious train of more than 10 lakh Pravasi Malayalis residing in Kerala was extended from New Delhi to Chandigarh.

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I am sure that people of Kerala are not going to be benefited out of it. This, three decades old train, is in the series of trains that run from the India’s capital to State capital. Sir, I would request the hon. Minister to reconsider his decision, and maintain the status quo.

Sir, as regards new Railway lines in Kerala, there was a demand for a new Railway line from Kottayam via Chengannur, Konni, Punalur to Trivandrum touching the eastern parts of Kerala. Survey was also conducted earlier, but there is nothing in the Budget about that project. Time-bound completion of gauge conversion will also go a long way in widening the railway network in Kerala.

Electrification of Railway line and reconstruction of old Railway bridges are also need of the hour.

Sir, I would like to make an important submission to the kind knowledge of the hon. Minister. It is regarding the revenue of Railways from Kerala. It is 100 per cent from Kerala. The reason for this success is high literacy rate and social change in Kerala. There is not even a single ticket-less traveller in Kerala. The demands for Railway development should be considered in the light of the above fact also.

Sir, with these words, I would once again request the hon. Minister to favourably consider the demands of the people of Kerala.

SHRI S. AJAYA KUMAR (OTTAPALAM) : Sir*, I thank you for giving me an opportunity to participate in the discussion. My colleague Smt. Sujatha has already dealt upon in details on the problems faced by the State of Kerala for the rail development. I do not want to repeat all the points already discussed. I will confine to just a few more points which I consider are most important.

Sir, Railway is the symbol of National Integrity. This could happen only if the rail development is evenly carried out benefiting all the 28 States and regions. Kerala is one of the most backward States in terms of railway development. Our repeated plea for a fair share in the railway development project fell on deaf years. Sir, the continuous negative attitude of the authorities forced me to undertake an indefinite hunger strike. Sir, it was after the intervention of the Hon’ble Speaker and assurances by the Railway authorities that I called off my strike in the recent past. But, Sir, still the demand for the Triangular Railway Station at Shornur as well as a Pit Lane not been found place in the present Budget. Electrification of the Mangalapuram-Shornur lane, a new line Nilambur-Nanjancod-Mysore and the gauge conversion of Pollachi-Palakkad sector are important projects. But there is no mention of these projects in the Budget. This kind of attitude is not acceptable.

Though the people of Kerala contribute considerably to the revenue earnings of the Railway when it comes to introducing new trains the State is always neglected. Most of the Kerala bound trains are over-crowded. To ease the problem, new trains should be introduced.

Sir, you might be remembering how a Project for a Coach Factory which was proposed to be set up in Palakkad was snatched away from Kerala in the 70s. This negative attitude towards the State was always there. Now, the State is limping behind every other States in terms of industrial and economical development for which the main cause is the lack of adequate rail development.

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Sir, there was a proposal for a Diesel Engine Work Shop at Palakkad. But, what is the present status of it? Minister should clarify.

Sir, there are about 1,25,000 licensed porters working in various stations in the country who are fully dependent on the income from carrying luggage of the passengers. The previous NDA Government’s decision to privatise the parcel booking service had already caused serious distress as this had diminished the availability of work for the licensed porters. The present Government’s decision to bring in new regulations in the areas of luggage carrying by train passengers, reducing the quantity by half, limiting the quantity of luggage in break vans aggravated the situation. This will further reduce the availability of work and would cause unemployment to most of the porters pushing hundreds of their poor families into penury. Sir, this has to be rectified. Besides, the railways recently decided to remove the parcel facility in stations where trains do not stop for 5 minutes or more aggravating the situation. We cannot allow lakhs of porters and their families being pushed to starvation. Sir, the Railway Minister while presenting the Interim Budget had offered many welfare measures for the Licensed porters. But the action of the Railway Board and the Bureaucrats in effect will liquidate the porters altogether.

Sir, another important point is that in the Southern Railway there was no referendum conducted for the Recognition of Trade Unions for a long period now. This is in violation of the democratic rights of the working forces in the railways. The reason for not holding referendum is that the leaders of the so-called recognized unions and the bureaucrats in the Southern Railway are hand in glove in various anti-workers moves and people moves. I request the Minister to hold the referendum at the earliest.

Sir, I urge upon the Ministry to review budget proposals and include the projects for the developments of railways in the State of Kerala.

SHRI LONAPPAN NAMBADAN (MUKUNDAPURAM) : *Sir, Kerala has been neglected in this year”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’’s Railway budget too, as usual. I strongly protest against not sanctioning new Railway zone or a new train to Kerala. One third of the 46 new trains are allotted to the south Indian states other than Kerala. There is not even a single new train to Kerala. Congress alliance is in power both at the Centre and in the state. Kerala has been cruelly neglected in spite of the fact that all members from Kerala, barring one, support the government. Kerala is extremely backward in railway development compared to other states in the country. This is because Kerala does not have enough hold on the highest authorities of the Railways.

For a permanent solution to the continuous neglect, Kerala should be allotted a special railway zone.

The construction of 3 new lines, namely Thanoor- Guruvayoor, Angamali- Sabarimala, and Kottayam-Erumely should start immediately. Sufficient allocation should be made for the doubling of both the Alappuzha and the Kottayam routes from Ernakulam. Angamali and Irinjalakkuda stations should be computerised. The decision to terminate the diesel shed at Ernakulam should be revoked. Instead, additional facility for the repair of electrical engines should be installed at the diesel shed.

The recognition of trade unions in the Railways should be given through secret ballot system in a democratic manner. The vacant posts in the Railways, which comes approximately 2 lakhs, should be filled. This will help reduce accidents and ease the workload of the employees. The duty hours of railway gate men are 10 to 12 hours at present. A number of accidents take place due to this long duty hours. This should be reduced to 8 hours. Due to the privatisation of railway catering services the amount and weight of food items have gone down and the prices have gone up. Food should be supplied in right amount and weight and prices should be reduced.

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The facility to book parcels and luggage should be restored at all stations. This will help thousands of porters get their jobs back. Their job security should be ensured. The present contract system should be done away with. The old dilapidated coaches should be changed and new coaches should be introduced. Many stations do not have facilities for even basic needs. There are many stations without roof or foot over bridge. More allocations should be made for the doubling of lines and the construction of over bridges and their construction should be completed at the earliest. Immediate steps should be made to complete the construction of over bridges at Kalletunkara, Chalakkudi, and Koratti. The practice of closing existing railway stations in the pretext of ””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””un economic stations”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””” should be stopped. The income of such stations should be increased by sanctioning stop for more trains there.

Kerala is the “God”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’’s own country” much advanced in education, health care and culture. The crime rate among Malayalee passengers is very low. Cases of ticket- less travelling are extremely low among Malayalees. I request from the most backward position that there should be declarations favourable to Kerala in the reply of the Honourable Minister for railways. We hope that the obstacle of the ””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””black pillar”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””” in front of us will be removed and the”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””” white smoke”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””” will emerge from your side.

SHRIMATI P. SATHEEDEVI (BADAGARA) : *The Railway Budget presented by the Railway Minister is having some positive aspects and to that extent, it is appreciated. There is no intention to increase the passenger charges and freightage and the special benefits enjoyed by the weaker sections of the society is still continued. It is really appreciated.

But while presenting the Budget the Railway Minister has completely ignored the fact that there is a State by name Kerala in the Southern part of the country. The State of Kerala contributes not less than 700 crores of rupees to the revenue of Indian Railways. But the Railway Budget provides a very meagre amount for the development of railway in the State of Kerala. The Railway Ministry has again bye passed the long standing and progress of Railway in Kerala.

Sir, the Railway Ministry has announced that about 46 new trains will be introduced throughout the country. But it is really unfortunate to say that not a single one is provided to Kerala. The attitude of the Railway Ministry is very unkind and unjustified.

People of Kerala are hopeful at least this time they will get a fair deal from the U.P.A. Government. Over 15 million of people of Malabar area consisting of 6 northern districts has been continuously neglected by the Railway and the sufferings of the people are increasing. The demand for a Superfast Express between Chennai and Goa raised by the various associations of this area has not recognised by the Ministry.

During the reign of N.D.A. Government, a weekly train between Cannanore and Yeswanthpur was introduced. In fact, the service of this train does not benefit the thousands of people travelling between Bangalore and different cities of Malabar area. Previously there was 2 through coaches running daily between Mangalore and Bangalore which were withdrawn. Over 100 tourist buses

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are operating from the Malabar region to Bangalore and Mysore. These buses are heavily crowded with businessmen, students, employees and devotees to various temples. It is absolutely necessary to run the Yeswanthapur Kannur express train as a daily train to suit the interest of the general public. This service shall be routed via Bangalore city and Malleswaram as to save one hour extra running time. This service will attract enormous passenger parcel traffic boosting the revenue to the Railway.

The pilgrim traffic from Malabar area to Guruvayoor temple is increasing. In the absence of direct train link pilgrims are compelled to alight at Kuttippuram and catch buses to Guruvayoor. Hence running a direct train between Kasargod and Guruvayoor via Trichur will be highly benefited to the people of Malabar area.

The Rail link from Nilambur-Nangangud to Mysore is very vital. With the completion of the International container Terminal at Vallarpadam and the LNG complex there in the Railway Traffic from and to Cochin will increase many a time. If the rail link between Nilampur-Nangangud to Mysore is opened, it will reduce the distance and running time between Bangalore and Cochin considerably. The long pending demand of Tellicherry Mysore Railway also is not considered by the Ministry. If this is fulfilled, it will be highly beneficial to the people of Kerala and Karnataka States.

The biweekly Kannur Mangalore Maveli Express should be made daily. A superfast Express between Mangalore Tirvendrum should be introduced.

The promised Sampark Kranthi Express may be launched immediately on the Konkan route.

The Rajdhani Express from Delhi to TVM is now running for 2 days per week.

The frequency of Rajdhani Express should be increased to at least 4 days per week.

Sir, over a million of people of Kerala are now living at Delhi and in the adjoining areas like Faridabad, Ghaziabad, Noida, Gurgaon, etc. During the summer vacations and the festival seasons, special trains should be introduced from Delhi to Kerala. The existing trains are quite insufficient to accommodate the heavy rush of the commuters to Kerala.

Sir, the train Kerala Express running between Delhi and the State Capital of Kerala for the last 25 years has now proposed to extend to Chandigarh. This will really create more inconvenience and much agony to the commuters at Delhi. Hence, it is requested that the said proposal of extension should be withdrawn and a new train should be introduced to Kerala from Chandigarh via Delhi.

Sir, the required amount for the completion of the ongoing railway projects for the doubling of railway link spread over the State is 225.93 crores. But it is very sad to note that the Budget allocation is only Rs. 53.60 crores. with this meagre amount nonce of the projects could be completed.

The Budget allocation for the electrification and that of the construction of overbridges are also very meagre. It has to be increased. The construction of Railway overbridge at Vengalam, Nandi, Chengottkavu are still pending. It seems that the construction wing wants to prolong the projects as it is beneficial to them. Sufficient pressure from the Government is necessary to speed up the work.

The passenger amenities and safety can be provided, only by proper actions. Implementation of 8 hours duty to the crew of the Mail, Express and Superfast and Passenger Trains should be assured. The Catering service should be made service motivated instead of the profit sharing attitude.

Sir, the people of Kerala is really disappointed by the introductions of the Railway Budget in a way totally is ignoring the interest and expectations of them. Hence the entire Keraliets are looking forward for some favourable actions from the Railway Ministry.

I hereby conclude my speech hoping for your favourable reply and decision in the larger interest of the people of Kerala.

SHRI P. KARUNAKARAN (KASARGOD) : *I appreciate the stand taken by the Railway Minister not to make any increase in the passenger traffic as well as parcel charges in the Budget for the year 2004-05.

There are number of other measures to strengthen our railway security and administrative set-up. So, this is a positive approach.

But, there are many other issues which have to be addressed and thereby strengthen the credibility and creativeness of this Budget. The economic development of our country mainly depends upon the development of infrastructure and the most important among them is the railway. Indian Railway has a very glorious history, maybe the largest network of transportation of our country.

So, we need a balanced growth approach at the national level, should not be confined to some areas alone. I do not disagree with the projects given to many States, but there are other States also to be included in the list.

I am sad to say that in this Budget, when 46 new trains are announced, Kerala has no place in the list. The allocation of doubling, completion of ROBs, electrification also needs more funds.

With regard to ROBs, Kerala may be the first State which contributes 50 per cent of the total estimate of every work. But the sanctioned works are not yet completed, many of them have not yet begun.

6. Railway really takes special charges from the passengers for the railway security. So, the construction of ROBs is the part and parcel of the railway security itself. Yet the Government of Kerala has taken a positive stand to speed up the construction of ROBs. So, the railway has to speed up their work and sanction more ROBs in the State. Govt. of Kerala has already sent the proposals of ROBs and they are ready to bear 50 per cent of the cost.

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The Catering Corporation started its work. But the workers, who were there for a very long time, have been denied employment. The same is the case seen in the case of Porters in the railway in Kerala. They were also working for 30 or 35 years there, but when the railway decided to give the handling work to private individuals, these poor Porters were denied employment. This anti-labour steps should be withdrawn.

Government of Kerala and Kerala MPs have given a number of representations with regard to the sanctioning of new trains, survey of new lines and strengthening of infrastructure.

With regard to the new trains:

Thiruvananthapuram-Mangalore Maveli Express – make it daily train;

Madgaon-Mangalore Express should be extended upto Cochin;

Kannur-Bangalore Express – make it a daily train;

Start a new train from Trivandrum to Coimbatore;

Thiruvananthapuram-Kannur Express should be extended to Kasaragod;

Train to Mangalore –Chennai.

More funds for doubling, gauge conversion, construction of ROBs, electrification, etc.

New Survey to Sabari rail line and Guruvayoor – Tanur.

The safety of the railway is more important. Railway take special charges from 2nd Class, 1st Class and AC ticket for the safety fund. But, in many railway stations, the absence of foot over bridges leads to accidents because the passengers, especially women, children and old people, have to cross 3 or 4 railway lines in the railway stations. There are reports of accident deaths in these stations.

12. Manned and unmanned level crossings are also equally important in order to avoid train accidents. So, the railway has to draw an action plan with a time limit to construct manned and unmanned level crossings and also the 11FOBs in the railway stations.

I would also like to submit the names of the ROBs suggested by the Government of Kerala in their memorandum submitted to the Hon. Minister for Railways. Government of Kerala has already made it clear that they are ready to bear 50 per cent of the cost of every ROBs. These are the following names sent by the Govt. of Kerala for inclusion in the Railway Budget 2005-06:

1. Hosangady, Kasaragod LC No. 289

2. Kottikkulam Yard, Kasargod LC No. 280

3. Pazhayangady, Cannanore LC No. 257

4. Mambaram Road, Cannanore LC No. 230

5. Punaloor, Kollam V- 518

I would request the Railway Minister that the ROBs mentioned above may be included in the Railway Budget itself. Shri

16.26 hrs.

(Dr. Laxminarayan Pandey in the Chair)

SHRI JOACHIM BAXLA (ALIPURDUAR) : *Sir, through you, I would like to appreciate the Railway Budget 2005-06 presented by the hon. Railway Minister, Shri Lalu Prasad. I consider this Budget as a balanced one and pro-people.

Shri Laluji deserves appreciation for some positive decisions that were declared during his Budget Speech, i.e.,

50 per cent concession in Second Class fares to farmers and milk producers for the purpose of training/earning, etc.

Providing 75 per cent concession to Government rural school students for study tour.

75 per cent concession in Second Class fares to girls for attending entrance examinations.

Upgradation of reservation facilities, etc.

I sincerely thank the Minister for the decisions/approval in acceding my local demands, i.e.,

Demand for extension at both ends of NJP-Asansol which has been approved for extension from NJP to Alipurduar Junction and Asansol to Ranchi. It has found place in Time Table book also.

As demanded, it is declared that Mahananda-Delhi Express running between Delhi and New Jalpaiguri (NJP) would be extended from New Jalpaiguri (NJP) to Alipurduar Junction.

Also, my demand for out-of-turn sanction for construction of Ramp-type Foot-Over-Bridge at Alipurduar Junction (APDJn) has also been accepted and approved.

A long-standing demand of Jalpaiguri, Coochbehar, Goalpara districts has also been sanctioned before this Budget and its implementation is in progress but very slow progress is observed in respect of New Mainaguri-Jogighopa Project.

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I would now request the hon. Minister for Railways to please ensure that Alipurduar-Ranchi train starts running at an early date. Also, proper care should be given so that New Mainaguri-Jogighopa Railway Project is completed soon. Please make Alipurduar Junction as crew changing point. Stoppage of Intercity Express at Rajabhatkawa under Alipurduar Division will benefit the people of this remote place. Special package for DHR running between New Jalpaiguri (NJP) and Darjeeling be declared to attract more tourists.

To avert accident, unmanned gate at Banarhat should be made, manred one.

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17.00 hrs.

SHRI SUNIL KHAN (DURGAPUR) : *Sir, I stand to support the Railway Budget for the year 2005-06 with some reservation.

I welcome the Railway Minister for not increasing the passenger fare. But the common passengers are not getting the basic amenities not only in the railway station but also most of the trains.

Now, I would like to know how many accidents have taken place starting from Gaisal five years before and up to date. What is the result of that Inquiry Committee?

What is the number of reportable accident and what is the number of non-reportable accident that had taken place during the last five years? How many major accidents occurred in Indian Railways vis-à-vis other International Railways during the last five years?

How many anti-collision device units and how much track circuiting you require to reduce the number of accidents?

To generate more revenue in freight traffic, you have to increase more wagons to strengthen the freight traffic from 40 per cent to 80 per cent. In this situation, bogey-coupler production should be increased. So, please give the order for production of bogey-coupler to Burn Standard Company. On the one hand Burn Standard Company will sustain, the employees will remain for production and on the other hand, railway freight will be increased.

Sir, most of the trains are not running in proper time. Even, New Delhi-Sealdah Rajdhani Express, which carries most of the MPs in Session times – from West Bengal and Bihar – its frequency should be increased so that the passengers as well as MPs can reach Delhi in office-time. The catering system of Rajdhani (Sealdah) Express should be better.

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To avoid accidents and to maintain scheduled time to the destination, two more lines have to be laid from New Delhi to Howrah, New Delhi to Mumbai and New Delhi to Chennai. If not possible, at least, the third line should be there.

If we prepare the Indian Railway budget, we have to think overall India and not a special State! So, you have to think from Kanyakumari to Srinagar, Jaisalmer (Rajasthan) to Agartala and for increasing specially foreign tourist you have to look at Shillong (Meghalaya) where train should reach at the station from where Shillong looks like Switzerland.

Now, I remind you of my State of West Bengal. Some long-pending projects are still pending. Though some of the projects you have taken but the allocation of funds should be increased so that the projects can be completed. Further, I would like to say that Durgapur is my constituency and it is called ‘Rurh’ area of Eastern India. Durgapur is a Municipal Corporation for its growing population as well as industries. So, one first passenger should be introduced from Durgapur to Howrah for Senior Citizens, students, daily passengers of various factories. The Rajbandh Station (Eastern Railway) should be high because of so many oil companies launching their services. The officers and the employees at a large scale are to board the train from that platform. The dilapidated station –also a heritage station since British period – is still recognized in Eastern Railway fallen in between Paraj and Galsi Station. Nearly eleven villages are surrounded by that dilapidated Station. This station should be revived and the ticket counter should be opened.

Now, I would like to thank you for the proposal of surveying the railway line from Raniganj to Bankura. I once again remind you that the broad-gauge railway line, namely, the Bankura-Damodar River Railway Project is going open from Bankura to Sonamukhi as per your commitment at Bankura, i.e., on 31st of March 2005, but the remaining portion, namely, from Sonamukhi to Raina and from Raina to Chachai (Chord line of Eastern Railway) should be completed within the year 2008. So, you should allocate proper funds and I request you again that after completion of this project, on the same route bifurcation of Beliatore to Durgapur, which is hardly 22 kms, should be done. If it is done, it will be the gateway of South India to North East. So, I request you that, at least, the survey should be done from Beliatore to Durgapur on the same Bankura-Damodar River Railway track.

The allocation of fund should be increased from Bishnupur to Tarakeswar line of South Eastern Railway. To increase tourists, you have to thrust upon the railway line from Bankura to Mukutmonipur. Another line from Chatna to Raipur should be kept in mind to fulfil its demand.

I do hope that you will discuss and answer at the time of your reply.

Again, I thank you and I conclude my speech.

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SHRI ANANTA NAYAK (KEONJHAR): *Sir, the current Railway Budget has allocated a substantial amount of Rs.128.61 crore for the completion of Keonjhar-Tamka portion of Banspani – Jakhpura Railway project. The people of Keonjhar are looking forward to the scheduled completion of the project by March, 2006. Although outwardly, the project looks like a generous gesture, we know the sound economic sense in behind this decision, which is delayed far too long at great cost. For instance, only 10 km of Banspani – Jurudi section generated revenue of Rs.100 crore to Railways in the last 2 years, not to speak of new sidings of Nayagarh, Dubna and Keonjhar. It is estimated that once the connection of Paradip Port is made, the freight revenue will surpass the project cost in 2-3 years.

But when the production of iron ore in Keonjhar is being targeted to 60 million tones per year from 2007, even this single Railway line will be totally inadequate. Therefore, Railways should wisely plan out doubling of this line at the earliest.

When the current Budget provides for survey of Keonjhar – Badampahad Rail link, we do not understand how much short link of Banspani – Barsuan (25 km) is being overlooked. This link along with Talcher – Bimlagarh coal link, and Keonjhar – Badampahar will close a network in North Orissa providing connectivity to ports, market, raw materials, giving boost to a long neglected backward area. I would like to mention here that in the current Railway Budget, you have included Murgamahadev Road, Addl. Loop and Barbil – Bolanikadan (Loop/Yard Lines) CTR 5 Kms. These two loops are only for material transportation, which will benefit only some industry and industrialists, not to the general public. If a new survey can be made for short link of Joda to Barbil (only 12 kms) both the industrial sector, and the general public will be benefited. By this connection, it will also joint two major business cities, namely, Tatanagar and

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Cuttack via Keonjhar district. Due to this connection, the time taken from Cuttack to Delhi will reduce at least by five hours.

Turning back iron-ore loaded train from newly made Keonjhar Station was an unfortunate event. The interested parties, district administration, political leadership, and the Railway authorities could peacefully resolve all the outstanding issues by discussion. A judicious decision could be taken based on traffic restrictions, road construction, destinations, and such other arrangements and commercial operation could be restarted.

Orissa is a State, which is rich in resources, and with very less infrastructure. So, the BPL percentage is more than 47 per cent in this State. It is one of the neglected States in the country. So, there is problem like starvation death, and a big problem of employment. Although the State contributes quite significant amount of the total orientation revenue traffic to the Railways, yet the Railway Ministry always behave in a step-motherly manner. It has a very meagre Rail rout length, and Rail network in the State. No Railway production unit such as CLW in West Bengal, DLW in Uttar Pradesh, ICF in Tamil Nadu, RCF in Punjab, Wheal and Axle Plant in Karnataka, etc. is located in Orissa State to generate employment, and to help to improve its economy.

Keeping the above facts in view, I would like to request the hon. Railway Minister to pay special attention to a neglected State like Orissa, and to the above-mentioned proposal for reconsideration.

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17.22 hrs.

(Shri Varkala Radhkrishana in the Chiar)

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DR. M. JAGANNATH (NAGAR KURNOOL): Respected Chairman, Sir, thank you very much for giving me an opportunity to participate in the discussion on the Railway Budget. I welcome the Budget as it maintains the status quo in respect of passenger and freight fares and also for planning good safety measures and improving the amenities for passengers. The way in which the commodities have been classified would definitely lead to increase in the freight rates in the future. It has ambitious plans which are reflected in the Railway Minister”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’’s speech. It has not spelt out the way in which the Ministry is going to mobilise funds for various plans. That creates a fear in the minds of the people that in the near future the rates could be increased in many ways. This is definitely a populist Budget. We had a populist Budget in the previous year also. I have my own doubts that if such populist Budgets are proposed every year, how can we match the global standards in the rail travel?

Coming to my State, Andhra Pradesh, something has been given to this State as compared to previous years. But Budgetary allocation in respect of many aspects, like gauge conversion, new lines, doubling etc. does not match the present requirements.

Let me come to new lines. For Peddapalli-Karimnagar-Nizamabad new line, only Rs. 30 crore have been allocated. For Kakinada-Kotipalli new line, the requirement is Rs. 67 crore, but the allocation is only Rs. 2 crore. For Kotipalli-Narasapur new line, the requirement is Rs. 329 crore, but the allocation is only Rs. 1 crore. For Kakinada-Pithapuram new line, the requirement is Rs. 61 crore, but the allocation is only Rs. 1 crore. For Nandyal-Yerraguntla new line, the requirement is Rs. 420 crore, but the allocation is only Rs. 5 crore. For Macherla-Nalgonda new line, the requirement is Rs. 125 crore, but the allocation is only Rs. 1 crore. For Munirabad-Mahaboobnagar new line, the requirement is Rs. 460 crore, but the allocation is only Rs. 5 crore. Likewise for Gadwal-Raichur new line, the requirement is Rs. 86 crore, but the allocation is only Rs. 4 crore.

In respect of gauge conversion, the allocation is gradually coming down. In 2003-04, the allocation was Rs. 133.90 crore; in 2004-05, it was reduced to Rs. 102.90 crore; in 2005-06, it was further reduced to Rs. 87 crore.

In respect of doubling, there is a marginal increase in the Budgetary allocation. It has been increased from Rs. 135 crore to Rs. 155 crore. It is appreciable.

In respect of other fields, when hundreds of crores of rupees are required, if rupees one crore, two crore and five crores are allotted, I think in my life time, I will not be able to see a train rolling on the tracks. That is why, keeping in view the requirements, the money should be allocated. The projects, which are spelt out, are all mostly in the backward areas of Telangana. Unless we have good infrastructure, more so particularly of transport system, whether it is rail transport or road transport, the backward areas will never prosper and never develop. The investors will see the infrastructure available in any area. They do not want to construct roads by themselves or railway lines by themselves. That is why, the Railways have to concentrate on the backward areas and the Budgetary allocations have to be made accordingly.

Now, I come to the Naupada-Gunupur gauge conversion work. In the previous year, a sum of Rs.15 crore was allotted. Prior to that, Rs.15 crore was given. In this year’s Budget, only Rs.5 crore has been allocated. As time passes on, when the projects are to be completed in time, the Budgetary allocation should be on the higher side and it should not get reduced.

In other areas also like road safety, ROB/RUB, the allocation is not adequate. Adequate fund has not been given to Andhra Pradesh in this regard.

Regarding survey for new lines, I would say that two new lines find place in respect of Andhra Pradesh in this year’s Budget out of the 46 lines proposed by the Government of Andhra Pradesh. What is the criterion for deciding this? How much time is needed to lay new lines? Successively, in the Railway Budget, we are not finding Budgetary allocations for new lines because they are all from the backward areas. A number of new lines have been taken up and the proposals have been sent by the Government of Andhra Pradesh. They should be considered and cleared. I would request the hon. Minister to look into this.

I thank the hon. Railway Minister for proposing survey of new lines between Jadcherla and Nandyal and Manuguru to Ramagundam. There are extension of some of the new lines. But the lines which were proposed earlier should be completed. There is one line from Raichur to Macherla which goes through the backward areas of Raichur, Mahaboobnagar, Nalgonda and Macherla of Andhra Pradesh. Previously, for two portions from Gadwal to Raichur and Nalgona to Macherla, sanction was given. The middle part between Gadwal and Macherla does not find any mention. This part is very much essential. It cuts nearly 100 kms. from the coastal area like the Mumbai areas. If such types of lines are laid in the backward areas like Mahaboobnagar and Nalgonda districts, then the farmers can go in for other commercial crops instead of the traditional crops. Financially, they will be better off. I would request the hon. Minister to take up updating the survey between Gadwal and Macherla. The middle part has been left out. The then Railway Minister, on the floor of the House, promised that this would be considered. But, successively for two years, I am not finding any mention of these projects. I would request the hon. Minister to take up the Gadwal-Macherla middle part of the Macherla-Raichur railway line. As I said, the allocation is very much meagre. It has to be increased. Even in the case of Muneerabad-Mahaboobnagar also, out of the requirement of Rs.460 crore, only Rs.5 crore has been earmarked this year. Likewise, it is the same for Gadwal-Raichur, Nalgona-Macherla. These pertain to the most backward areas. Again, I would request the hon. Minister to allocate more funds.

Regarding ROB/RUB, there are not many such things sanctioned for Andhra Pradesh. Of course, one or two have been given. One such thing was in the main line of Hyderabad-Secunderabad-Bangalore. Jadcherla railway station is one important station. Jadcherla is one important business centre. I have been repeatedly requesting the hon. Minister for the construction of either one RUB at Jadcherla or ROB. The one railway gate is situated very much near the yard of Jadcherla Railway Station. The station divides the Jadcherla old town and the new town. Because of that, whenever trains stop, at the gate, there will be a lot of problems in crossing the road from one side to the other side. I would request the hon. Minister to consider the construction of a road under bridge at Jadcherla railway station. Also, there should be an over bridge at Yenugonda level crossing. These are between NH-7 and the district headquarters of Mahaboobnagar. Also, one road over bridge should be constructed at Gadwal.

The hon. Minister has proposed some new trains. Some six new trains have been proposed. Some of them are passenger trains and some others are extension of two express trains. One is Krishna Express up to Nizamabad and the other one is Mumbai-Nizamabad Express extended up to Secunderabad.

Sir, our long pending demands for introduction of an Inter-City Express from Secundrabad to Kurnool Town, a Rajdhani Express between Hyderabad and New Delhi and Super-Fast Trains between Visakapatnam and Hyderabad and from Chennai to Howrah via Visakapatnam have not been fulfilled. Most of the trains to Southern States are passing through this line only. So, keeping in view the traffic in this route, I would request the hon. Minister to see that some Super-Fast Trains and Inter-City Expresses are introduced in this line.

As far as railway accidents are concerned, they are gradually coming down, but we should not get complacent with this because we should maintain the accident level to the barest minimum and we should make efforts to see that not even a single accident takes place in the Indian Railways. On inquiry, we felt that the main reason for railway accidents is due to the condition of the tracks. The tracks are very old and old bridges keep collapsing and that is the reason for most of the accidents. This is happening due to the huge haulage of traffic. Railways are the common man’s mode of transport and also the cheapest mode of transport. So, the Railways should make every effort to minimise the number of accidents.

Similarly, ensuring the safety of passengers is the prime responsibility of the Railways. I would request the hon. Minister to see that high level research and development is carried out for this purpose. He should allocate more funds for research and development and also take concrete steps for relaying of old tracks and also reconstruct all the old bridges which are more than 100 years. Most of the accidents take place in such places. Therefore, I would request the hon. Minister to see that all the old bridges are rebuilt.

I now come to doubling and electrification of railway lines. In the modern era, the world is moving very fast. The world has become a global village where people are not in a position to wait for long hours and spend days in travelling as it used to happen in the past. So, it is the duty of the Railways to see that this mode of transport is made very quick. This is possible only by doubling of railway lines and also electrifying them. In this connection, I would like to point out to the hon. Minister that Secundrabad to Dronachalam line and also Secundrabad to Mumbai line are very important. My request is that these two lines should be doubled and also electrified soon.

Sir, though this year’s Railway Budget looks oriented towards the poor and populist, we must also think of the future. In this Budget, it has been spelt out that one way of resource mobilisation will be by selling of vacant lands and also by construction of commercial complexes, warehouses and logistic parks in surplus railway land. This is a good idea, but it will definitely hamper the expansion of the Railways in future. If we go on selling the assets which we have got now, in future we will not be left with any assets for resource mobilisation. So, my request to the hon. Railway Minister is, that the Railways should concentrate on mobilisation of resources through other ways than selling of vacant lands owned by the Railways.

Then, though there is a marginal increase in the allocation for doubling and other things, the allocation for laying of new lines and gauge conversion works is not more than Rs. 137 crore in the case of South-Central Railway which is in the State of Andhra Pradesh. Keeping in view the backwardness of our State, the Government of Andhra Pradesh has sent many proposals to the Railway Minister. I would request the hon. Minister of Railways to see that all the proposals sent by the Government of Andhra Pradesh are cleared soon.

SHRI BIKRAM KESHARI DEO (KALAHANDI): Sir*, I oppose the Railway Budget. As you know, Orissa is a backward State in the field of railway network. I hope that the ongoing projects of doubling the new lines, conversion of new lines from narrow gauge to broad gauge, have not been given due allocation of funds for the benefit of the people of Orissa. If the funds spend with this pace, as projected in the Railway Budget, it will take another 50 years to complete the ongoing projects. As you all know, Railway in a developing country is the Engine of Growth. Today, India has become a part of the globalisation process and is the signatory of the WTO. So, it becomes essential to develop infrastructure like the Railways, as it is the largest carrier of freight, which include, minerals, ores, foodgrains, medical supplies and other important finished goods like steel, cement across the country.

My region, that is, KBK region, which is in Orissa, is virtually totally neglected and has the sparest rail network. The NDA Government could make the formation of the East Coast Railways a reality, though previously it was just a political announcement. We have three Divisions, namely, Sambalpur, Khurda and Waltair Division. Sambalpur is a brand new Division and requires a lot of funds for the development of the network. The stations have to be remodeled, and the goods handling facilities have to be modernised, etc. In my constituency, there are five railway stations, namely, Kesinga, Narla, Rupra Road, Langigarh Road and Kandle Road. I would like to thank the hon. Railway Minister for allocating Rs. 8 crore for the Langigarh to Junagarh railway line. I think, it would get around Rs. 20 crore so that the work on this line could be speeded up.

As you know, Sir, the port connectivity is very important for the growth of the country and its economy. The growth rate is envisaged at 8.5 per cent in the year 2005-06. I also congratulate the hon. Minister for having declared new trains,

but I am sorry to say that some of the trains are not routed through Raipur and

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Visakhapattnam. The neglected 8 districts of the KBK in Orissa will never get the benefit of the Railways, and the natural resources in the form of minerals like bauxite, limestone, tin ore, gemstones, iron ore, coal cannot be exploited for the benefit of the country. Therefore, it is highly essential that the railway lines from Titlagarh to Raipur and Titlagarh to Bhubaneswar should be extended and doubled. The vast mineral rich districts of Kalahandi and Bolangir will be open for industrialisation. When the Congress Government was there from 80’s till the 90’s, there were reports of starvation death, migration and destitution. Accordingly, the hon. Supreme Court directed an inquiry to these events. Besides this, the Human rights Commission, in its Report, directed the Planning Commission to initiate the special programme for the KBK Districts, which is going on nowadays, but the railway infrastructure is missing.

The announcement of new trains made by the Railway Minister is very late. The trains may be routed through Bilaspur to Triputi Express via Visakhapatnam. A train may also be introduced between Sambalpur to Bhubaneswar, and it should be running on daily basis. If the train runs thrice a week via Vijaynagaram, then it would touch the KBK Districts, and it will have a direct connection from the KBK Districts to capital Bhubaneswar. Train Nos. 8407 and 8408, that is, Nizamuddin to Bhubaneswar and Hirakud to Visakhapatnam Express may be routed through via Titlagarh. Train Nos. 2659 and 2660, which are running between Bhubaneswar to Chennai and Chennai to Bhubaneswar, may be routed through via Titlagarh. The Samata Express from Nizamuddin to Vishakhapatnam, which is running four days a week, may be running daily. Shri Rathwa, Minister of State for Railways had come for an inauguration programme in my constituency. In a public meeting, he had suggested that the train would be running on a daily basis. Besides this, the Kesinga Railway Station may be made a model Railway Station.

I would like to request the hon. Minister to kindly allocate funds to survey the area and extend the railway lines. From Langigarh Road to Junagarh, survey has already been done. From Junagarh to Ambagurha (Jeypore) KK Line via Navrangpur, extension of railway line will have to be done. This will make the port connectivity between Visakhaptanam Port and the Bailadilla Iron Ore Mines in Chhattisgarh.

A survey for a line from Kesinga to Bhavani Patna, which is the District Headquarter of Kalahandi, should be done. In the meantime, an urban booking centre may be opened at Bhavani Patna, which is 40 kilometres away from Kesinga. As a new bridge is going to be constructed on River Tel, I would like to request the hon. Minister to make the bridge rail-cum-road bridge, which will connect two important towns of Titlagarh and Kesinga, which are the two major trading hubs of the KBK.

Funds may also be allocated for the rail over bridge (ROB) at Kesinga, National Highway 201. It is a matter of regret that the funds for rail over bridge (ROB) of the previous year were unutilised due to non-compliance of reports. Besides this, recruitment in class four category may also be made.

With these words, I would like to conclude my speech. Though the hon. Railway Minister has given more funds to Orissa in comparison to other States of the country, yet I am unhappy.

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SHRI SUBRATA BOSE (BARASAT): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to support the Railway Budget for 2005-06 presented by the hon. Minister of Railways.

First of all, I would like to compliment the hon. Minister for deciding not to increase passenger fares for the second consecutive year and also for his efforts to rationalise the freight structure. I think rationalisation of the freight structure has been overdue and I am very happy that the hon. Minister as well as the Officers of the Railway Minister have thought about rationalisation of freight tariff.

However on the question of freight, I would like to suggest, and I think, the hon. Minister should consider, that for all food grains – it is not only for the supply of rations to the BPL persons and for mid-day meal – whether the freight charges can be further reduced. I think, food grain is the most essential commodity, which naturally is consumed by all the people of the country, whether it is the question of rice or wheat. I think, if this point is considered by the hon. Minister, I should be grateful to him for that.

The hon. Railway Minister has also announced different new projects for new lines as well as for uplinking or conversion of gauge, etc. I am, of course, a bit disappointed that the hon. Minister of Railways has not remembered West Bengal as far as this Railway Budget is concerned. He has given us a new train, the super fast Sampark Kranti Express from Sealdah to Delhi. However, I am not very sure as to whether much useful purpose will be served by this new train. This is in addition to the Rajdhani Express, which we have and also other trains like Delhi-Kalka Mail and other trains from Howrah to Delhi or from Sealdah to Delhi.

This train is particularly called super-fast train. This train is going to take 23 hours to come from Sealdah to Delhi, whereas the Rajdhani Express, both from Howrah to Delhi and Sealdah to Delhi takes about Seventeen and a half hours. You may call it super-fast, but in effect, I think, even faster trains are available for passengers. Although, I welcome the introduction of a new train, I perhaps wish, if more useful connections in West Bengal or from West Bengal or to West Bengal could have been considered by the hon. Minister of Railways.

Talking about new projects naturally reminds us of the on-going projects which have been in the process. We find that the hon. Minister or the Railway Ministry is not very much concerned about the completion of projects which have already been undertaken by them. For instance, I shall give the example of one project of doubling, which concerns my constituency Barasat. In North-24 Pargana District of West Bengal, this doubling of line from Sealdah to Bongaon has been undertaken for the past many years. It was proposed by the Leader of our Party, Forward Bloc, late Chitta Basu. It was, of course, heartening to note that the proposal was accepted, but he is dead and gone and whether it is progressing or not is doubtful and if I shall also live to see the completion of this project or when the new generation will profit by this project after its completion is really doubtful.

I would like to know if there is any principle of completion of old projects or the projects which are in process. They are undertaking new projects. The old projects are left to linger on whereas new projects are taken in hand. In that manner, if old projects are once taken up, the completion of them is indefinite. I think, if more attention is given by the hon. Minister of Railways to the completion of projects, which have been taken in hand, then more benefits would accrue to the passengers of that area.

Sir, I will take one more minute.

I think there has been a lot of talk on safety and security. I have a feeling that not enough finance or fund is being made available to this. I know there is a constraint of fund. I think it is, therefore, very important for the Railways to utilise other resources like proper or even commercial utilisation of the vast lands which are owned by the Railways. We know we have problems. There is encroachment.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Please conclude.

SHRI SUBRATA BOSE : Sir, I will conclude in a minute. Of course, I welcome the proposal to set up an authority for the management of the land. But I hope they will also ensure that there is no further encroachment of the railway lands which are now vacant, in the possession of the Railways and are not encroached upon.

Sir, since the time is limited, I would only like to thank you for giving me this opportunity and I conclude my speech.

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing will be recorded except the speech of Shri Nikhil Kumar Choudhary.

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SHRI G. KARUNAKARA REDDY (BELLARY): *Sir, at the outset, I am glad that I have been given the opportunity to speak on the Railway Budget. Sir, I am unhappy over the presentation of the Railway Budget presented by the hon. Railway Minister. The State of Karnataka stands neglected with no facilities provided for in this year’s Budget, though a revenue income of Rs. 800 crore are getting from only Bellary.

Kottur-Harihar line forms an important link between the two coasts – East Coast and the West Coast. The line, on completion, would enable movement of iron ore to all the three Ports – Mangalore, Chennai and Vizag Ports. On the return journey, the goods trains can carry fertilizers, coal, cement and other products. The hon. Minister has allocated Rs. 3 crore only for this project. The line, which is economically viable, should be given more emphasis. I urge upon the hon. Minister to allocate at least Rs. 20 crore for the early completion of this project.

In the meantime, I would request the hon. Minister to introduce a daily train between Guntakal and Kottur, as the work has already been completed, for the benefit of the people of these areas.

I urge upon the hon. Minister that more facilities should be provided at Hubli, which will be befitting its status as Zonal Headquarters.

In view of the existing broad gauge line, Hospet-Guntakal is an over-saturated point. There is an urgent need to expedite the ongoing work of double lines between Hospet-Guntakal. This was essential to ease the traffic congestion and enable movement of iron ore to Chennai and Vizag Ports from Bellary-Hospet sector, and also for introduction of new trains for the benefit of the passenger-public in this region.

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The people of Bellary region have been nurturing a long-cherished dream of getting through trains between Chennai and Mumbai via Bellary and Hospet. I would like to request the hon. Railway Minister to consider this request also.

It is heartening to note that the hon. Railway Minister has introduced a new train between Hubli and Chennai. My appeal to him is that the train runs via Hospet and Bellary.

Similarly, last year, I appeal to the hon. Minister for introduction of an another direct train from Chennai to Mumbai and Mumbai to Chennai via Bellary. This is the long-cherished dream of the people of this region. I may tell you that no initiative has been taken so far in this regard. Bellary is flourishing as a business centre, and there is an urgent need to introduce these trains so that business people can benefit more.

Hampi is an important city in the Bellary District, which attracts the international tourists. Apart from this, thousands of tourists are thronging the city. A large number of office-goers travel between these two cities daily. There is an urgent need to ply a push-pull train between the two cities. It is not only for the benefit of office-goers but also to those wanting to visit Hampi.

I would also like to draw the kind attention of the hon. Railway Minister to the fact that there are no-day time trains between Guntakal and Hubli. It causes a lot of hardships to the passenger-public of the region. Prior to gauge conversion, there are several trains passing through Bellary during the day. I would request the hon. Minister to kindly reintroduce all the trains prevailing prior to gauge conversion.

The Hampi Express is running between Hubli, and Bangalore is having only one General Compartment and very less number of Sleeper Class coaches. The common people are travelling in General Compartment and Sleeper Class are facing a lot of difficulties due to shortage of coaches. I would request the hon. Railway Minister to include two more General Compartments and two more Sleeper Coaches in this train for the benefit of the common people.

National Highway No.13 of Sholapur-Mangalore Section crosses one railway line LC: 13 (13-14) near the Kanavi Veerabhadra Temple covering a distance of 298 kilometres. Due to heavy mining activities, a number of goods trains carry iron ore facing closure of railway gate very frequently. It is because of this frequent closure, thousands of vehicles are getting stuck and hours together traffic jammed which is causing greater difficulties to the people. There is an urgent need to construct a road under bridge at this place for the free and smooth flow of vehicular traffic. This is the long-pending issue of the people of these areas, and it needs to be taken immediately.

Bellary City is thickly populated place having a population of nearly four lakh. One railway line (LC:110) is crossing at the National Highway No. 63 between Ankola-Gooty Section. Due to heavy mining activities, a number of goods trains carry iron ore to different parts of the country face problems due to the frequent closure of the railway gates. Due to this, vehicular traffic is frequently jammed. In most of the cases, schools buses are also got jammed, and the students are also greatly suffered. This requires immediate Road Over Bridge (ROB). I would like to request the hon. Railway Minister to take up this project immediately so that the traffic jams in these sections will be reduced.

Sir, in my Bellary District, there is a Tourist Place called Hampi. It is a world famous place and included in the World Heritage Centre. A lot of foreign tourists as well as Indian Tourists are visiting Hampi. So, I demand the hon. Railway Minister to introduce a Palace on Wheels Train to Hospet-Bellary.

In the year 2004, the then hon. Minister of State for Railways had laid down the foundation stone in Bellary City at Satyanarayanapet Railway Gate crossing for road over bridge (ROB), but no work was started. I urge upon the hon. Railway Minister to start this work immediately. Due to frequent closure of railway gates, a lot of inconvenience is causing to the people of Bellary city.

With these words, I would like to thank the hon. Speaker for giving me this opportunity.

18.00 hrs.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Hon. Members, if the House agrees we can extend the House till the end of the debate.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI BIJOY HANDIQUE): Sir, I request for the same.

SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS : Yes.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN (BALASORE): Sir, as the hon. Member is saying, there is no officer from the Railway Board in the Official Gallery. There is nobody from the Railway Board present in the Official Gallery. Will the discussion continue like this? Will there be no prestige of this House? The officers from the Railway Board and other Members should be present here. Should they not remain present here?

(SHRI BIJOY HANDIQUE : They are just coming. Please bear with us.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Hon. Member Kunwar Manvendra Singh may continue his speech.

18.02 hrs. (Shri Arjun Sethi in the Chair)

SHRI B. MAHTAB (CUTTACK): *Respected, Sir, the Railway Budget this year is insipid and colourless. It has no statement to make about the direction in which the Indian Railways is to go. Instead of providing vision document for the Railways, it looks like a mere compilation of documents of the Railways with no fixed purpose. As far as the content of the Budget is concerned, there is nothing in it really. It is clearly playing to the gallery without any thought for the betterment of the institution of the Railways.

The transformation of telecom, road and port sectors in India may be termed by the pre-Budget survey as ‘role models’ for initiating reforms in the Indian Railways, but the core question is whether the Rail system in India will ever take the track to modernisation. The Railway Minister, no doubt, has accommodated some points of the already unveiled integrated Railway Modernisation Plan (2005-2010), but there was no serious attempt to overhaul the system to make Indian Railways a world class Railway by 2010. Has any attempt been made to convert this year’s Rail Budget to a vision document? No, we find slow train for future as other infrastructure sectors including telecom, road, aviation and ports are already on a fast lane. The moot point here is that the current fact-file of Indian Railways is not impressive, and it raises doubts on modernising the world’s second largest Railway system after that of Russia. With a staff of 1.5 lakh, and a pension liability of more than Rs.6,000 crore, which is 15 per cent of its total revenue per annum, the Railways cannot be expected to be as efficient as modern rail system around the world. So, is the meagre R&D spend a handicap in the modernisation drive. In fact, the annual R&D spend by the Indian Railways is as less as Rs.70 or just 0.17 per cent of its total revenue, and experts strongly recommend that it should be increased to over 1 per cent with immediate effect. Would the Minister consider it?

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Now, I want to raise the point of level playing field. Earlier, I have argued to provide first priority to support the Railways to create a level playing field with the roadways. The budgetary support to the Railways has come down from 35 per cent to just 5 per cent in the recent years. It needs to be corrected if one expects the Indian Railways to go on an expansion plan and undergo any modernisation drive. Railways are losing its market share to the road because of non-availability of a level playing field. At present, the Railways carries just 40 per cent of the freight and 20 per cent of the passenger traffic. But, considering that Rail being five times more fuel efficient than other models, it is estimated that the country would have saved fuel worth Rs.7,500 crore per year, if freight traffic by the rail would have been around 60 per cent.

Today, cross subsidisation from freight to passenger traffic is around Rs. 4,000 crore. What steps are being taken to correct it? This reminds me of an incident of 19th Century; during the time of East India Company. That Company, which first laid down the Railway lines in India, had realised the need for keeping the passenger fare low for a different reason. A directive of the Company in 1845 explained “According to the experience of the country (Great Britain) by fare, the largest returns are procured from passengers; the least from the traffic goods. The condition in India in this respect is directly reverse to that of England ……. it may, therefore, be assured the remuneration for rail roads in India, must be for present, be drawn chiefly from the conveyance of merchandise, and not from passengers”.

From historical perspective to the modern day political arithmetic, low passenger tariff has always been favoured. What is needed now is to realise the potential of the Railways, and estimate what it has not been able to achieve because of not increasing its capacity. The economy is growing at a much faster rate, and the demand is increasing. Nearly 1.5 million tonnes of traffic wait for clearance every day. Choking at Paradeep Port is a clear example where the Railways are unable to provide rakes as per demand. Will the Minister look into it?

My basic question is, can we make the Indian Railways truly world class? In my mind, there is no doubt that it is the people, and the policy framework that would enable performance. But what has gone wrong?

This can be divided into two parts. At the organisational level, the key issues are dwindling freight and passenger market share, increasing customer satisfaction, falling brand image, especially due to safety, failure to maintain assets at desired level, failure to create capacity in time. In spite of anticipated demand, and being in the mode of importing technology, one should be a leader in exporting technology.

At the people level, the important factors are reducing quality of Railway aspirants, lack of self-confidence, and self-esteem, unwillingness to stand up for values, and creeping frustration and helplessness.

All this has to be seen in the context of the external environment, which has been demanding customers, competition from other modes of transport, public service obligations, interference, changing technological environment, and multiple sources of capital. The test would be whether these characteristics of environment have become threats or opportunities.

I would like to draw the attention of the House towards another important aspect. As we all know, the economy of the country is on an upswing. During the preceding two years, Indian Railways carried on incremental traffic of about 65 mt. Which is about 32.5 mt. per year. The expected incremental traffic about 43 mt. in 2004-05 only shows that the economic growth is gaining momentum.

The 2005-06 Railway Budget, however, does not give any indication of specific strategies for developing rolling stock, line and crew capacities adequate to meet the growing increase in the demand for freight traffic. This area cannot be neglected, and must enjoy the top most priority in development programmes so as to avoid a drag in the economic growth of the country.

Safety and security has been given a passing reference in this Budget. The true visible changes in the Railway system like increase in the speed of freight trains, monitoring the movement of wagons have not been given proper thought.

I think, some hon. Members are aware of the fact that on an earlier occasion, the Planning Commission, and the Ministry of Finance as well as Railway Ministry, had agreed to identify the projects for completion during the Tenth and the Eleventh Plan. Prioritisation of Railway projects is a must. Unless it is done, there will not be a system for monitoring of projects, and you cannot hold anyone accountable for non-completion of project in time. Even though the Planning Commission, and the Finance Ministry are emphasising for fresh fixation of priority of projects, why there is delay? Is the Cabinet not agreeing to it?

Orissa has been a victim because of non-fixation of priority of projects. New line construction between Daitari and Bansapani has been going on for decades, and this year, it has been budgeted with RVN. Haridaspur – Paradeep New Line has also been marked in RVN with a paltry sum of Rs.20 crore. What is the logic of these allocations, I fail to understand. Doubling of line is supposed to get the highest priority of this Government. But in the case of second bridge over Mahanadi, it is allotted Rs.28.60 crore and that too in RVN. I have been recently informed by the hon. Minister of State (Railways) that the Asian Development Bank (ADB) is going to provide funds and the tenders are under progress. Already valuable time has been lost. Unless this second bridge over Mahanadi is constructed, flow of freight to and from Paradeep will not increase. Even today, Railways are unable to meet the demand. You can check up the figures yourself.

Similarly, I would like to draw the attention of the hon. Minister towards construction of doubling from Cuttack to Barang for which Rs. 30 crore have been marked, and RVN is to take up the job. Whatever major work that is required to facilitate flow of traffic, and to take remedial steps to overcome bottlenecks, those projects are getting delayed. I would urge upon the Government to take special interest for the development of Railway in Orissa.

Lastly, I would like to draw the attention of this House towards the slow progress in constructing ROBs/RUBs. It is a genuine problem, and I am surprised to know that invariably both the Railways, and the respective State Government, play the blame game against each other for non-completion of these projects. As of now, around 344 works of ROBs/RUBs are underway, and 50 per cent share of the Railways amounting to Rs. 2,500 crore is there. Further, there are 1,252 level crossings for replacements by ROBs/RUBs on cost sharing basis, which are to be taken up in near future at an estimated cost of Rs.15,000 crore, out of which Railways’ share would be Rs.7,500 crore. Can’t the Government chalk out a feasible plan, and entrust the responsibility to one agency? There is a Central Road Fund. Indian Railways also contribute their share towards this fund for diesel and petrol. Railways also get around Rs. 400 crore as cess from that fund. The Railways authorities are on record that if this cess is doubled to Rs.800 – 900 crore – and is not only exempted from paying towards the diesel – petrol cell but also allowed to utilise the same towards construction of ROBs/RUB – the Railways can complete the work as a single agency. If this is so, what is holding the Government back? Should it be necessary to explain the urgency of construction of ROBs/RUBs?

Many have expressed their satisfaction for no increase in rail fare and freight rates. But there was hardly any scope to increase freight rates because it was only in last November, 2004 that the freight rates for selected items – including coal and iron ore, bauxite, manganese ore – were hiked by 7.7 per cent while the rate for cement was raised by 3.7 per cent. We were told that this was done to offset partially the additional burden of the fuel bill and steel prices.

Though there was a strong case for a modest increase in second class sleeper fares, in ordinary train and in suburban season tickets, they still remained heavily subsidised. Such a step was all the more desirable in order to provide better amenities and to augment capacities on highly congested routes where travel conditions have been deteriorating rapidly. Passenger traffic, which currently incurs a loss of around Rs. 5,300 crore every year, is expected to register an increase of 4 per cent in 2005-06. What steps do the Minister contemplate to take? We expect an answer. We all know that financial separation between commercial operations and social functions of the Railway system is required to make it viable, self-sustaining and capable of allocating investments from the outside while relying as little as possible on Government resources that may have greater impact elsewhere. If this fact is not recognised, and the Railways continue to function as a fiefdom, the system is bound to be caught in a vicious circle to tiny surpluses, inadequate investment, and deteriorating efficiency and safety.

The very presentation of a separate Railway Budget is testimony to the predominance of the “Government Department” view. The Report of the expert group, which submitted its report some four years ago, should be looked into. Its recommendations, which stated a massive change in the tariff structure – involving lowering of average freight rate, and upper class passenger fares, etc. – were the key suggestions which were made with a view to achieving business orientation and separation between commercial and social aspects.

We all know that the idea of leveraging Railway land for shopping malls, and entertainment plazas is not the Railway Minister’s idea. It comes from the Prime Minister’s Office. In fact, it is said that it was the pressure from the PMO that made the Railway Board come out with a Railway Modernisation Plan of Rs. 24,000 crore. The Plan itself is a compilation of all previously mooted plans for modernisation into one big project. Private players have been allowed entry into the carriage business through ‘Wagon Investment Scheme’. The customer would be given a guaranteed number of rakes every month. Big Railway private users like fertilisers and chemical manufacturers have been allowed to develop private sidings on cost sharing basis with the Railways. But one is to wait and see how much of these loud thinking is converted into actual as this Budget has stuck to the populist track.Thank you for allowing me to speak at length.

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SHRI M. SHIVANNA (CHAMARAJANAGAR): *Sir, I thank you for permitting me to speak on the Railway Budget 2005-06. At the outset I would like to congratulate the hon. Railway Ministers Shri Laluji and Shri Veluji for presenting a very good Budget. This is an extraordinary Budget for the ordinary people. It suits all classes of people. Various facilities have been provided to rural women, physically challenged personnel, school students, government employees and all sections of the society have been benefited by this Budget. It has been made very easy even to transport dead bodies for conducting the final rituals. School children can take up excursions and other tour programmes at a very nominal rates.

56 years have passed after our independence. Many persons from Karnataka became Railway Ministers at the Centre. Shri H.C. Dasappa, Shri Kengal Hanumantaiah, Shri T.A. Pai, Shri George Fernandes and Shri Jaffer Sharief were the Railway Ministers. Even then Karnataka could not get its share from the Railway Ministry. This step motherly attitude of the Centre towards Karnataka is still continuing.

My State when compared to other States is forward in many aspects. But unfortunately as far as railway facilities are concerned it is still a backward State. That is why on one hand I congratulate the hon. Ministers and on the other I lodge my complaints to them regarding the injustice done to Karnataka by their ministry.

Hassas-Shranvana Belagoda-Bangalore line has been included in this Budget along with Bangalore-Nelamangala-Bangalore railway line. As far as new trains are concerned Mangalore-Madagao Shatabdi Express has been made six days a week. Chennai-Bangalore Shatabdi Express has been made six days a week. Bangalore-Saravathi passenger line has been cleared but they say it will be operational only after completion which may take another 10 to 15 years.

* Translation of the Speech originally delivered in Kannada.

Similarly Yeshavantapur to Mangalore Express via Mysore will be operated only after gauge conversion.

It has also been the hon. Minister was kind enough to provide Hubli-Chikkajajur daily passenger and Belgaum-Meeraj 5 days a week passenger train.

Mysore-Tanjavur via Kumbakunam has been cleared. But it has to wait till the gauge conversion again. I also thank the hon. Minister for Kachigod-Sharavati Express.

Bangalore to Mysore should be double and electrified immediately. Mysore is one of the most beautiful places in the world. KRS, Zoo, Palace, Church, Chamundi Hills are worth visiting places and tourists from all over India and abroad are visiting Mysore. Hence it is very essential to have double line and electrified railway line between Bangalore and Mysore.

I urge upon him to sanction one Shatabdi Express between Mysore and New Delhi via Bangalore. This is a very long pending demand of the people of Karnataka.

Kolar to Chikkaballapur gauge conversion has been cleared. Similarly Kottur to Chitradurga via Jagalur railway line has been cleared and I am happy about this. Mangalore to Sharanur line has been taken up.

Sir, my constituency is a historical place. But the people are very backward and they need all help from the Government of India. Chamaraja Nagar-Mettupalyam has been taken up. Shri Veluji had visited my constituency and he had given very important assurances. I hope he will fulfil his promises and allocate more funds for the Chamarajanagar-Mettupalyam railway line.

Strangely only one crore has been allocated to Bangalore-Satyamangala line. This should be at least 25 crore.

Mettupalyam is the centre place of Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Kerala. Hence it should have proper railway link such that people can move from one State to another. When Veerappan was alive it was difficult but now there is no such problem.

Nanjangud-Gundlupet line and Gundlupet to Whynad lines have been cleared. Finally Sir I urge upon the Centre to construct over bridges across railway lines near Chamarajanagar.

Sir, on behalf of my party JD(S) I support the Railway Budget 2005-06 and thank you once again for allowing me to speak and with these words, I conclude my speech.

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SHRI ARJUN SETHI (BHADRAK): *Sir, it is rightly said that the Indian Railways is the lifeline of the nation. It is because the infrastructure development of the economically backward regions of the country depends upon the development of rail links in these areas. The Railway Budget for 2005-06 lacks such tenor and instinct. In this context, I would like to quote some of the National English Dailies and the views expressed thereof. The Hindu, in its Editorial of 28 February, 2005, wrote “in 2004, the hon. Railway Minister did not have the time to provide the much-needed focus since the United Progressive Alliance Government assumed power only in May. So he was content to thank the electorate and let the passengers off the hook. This time he has less reason to present a lacklustre Budget.” The Times of India wrote “Lalu on Janasadharan Express; Bihar script written with coalition ink.”

Andhra Pradesh, which gave the Congress a staggering tally of seats in Lok Sabha polls, has got its reward while Orissa, where the ruling alliance performed poorly has not been so lucky. In Orissa, the railway route length is 14 kilometres per thousand square kilometres against the national average of 19 kilometres. States like Bihar and West Bengal already have a railway route to the extent of 30 kilometres and 43 kilometres per thousand square kilometres respectively. The railway network in Orissa has a route length of 2340 kilometres, out of total 7432 kilometres of the then South-Eastern Railway. The State of Orissa is not only economically poor but also have many economically backward areas in it. In the current Railway Budget, only a meagre amount has been provided. Many rail links in the State are languishing over the years for completion for want of sufficient funds. In the current Budget also, the same thing has been repeated.

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The 289 kilometres long Khurda-Bolangir rail link was sanctioned in the year 1994-95 at an estimated cost of Rs. 353 crore. The latest anticipated cost overruns is of Rs. 700 crore and expected outlay provided of Rs. 43.62 crore till 2004-05. In the Budget of 2005-06, only Rs. 10 crore have been provided. If the funds are provided in this way, nobody knows how many years it will take for its completion. This project, apart from being economically viable, would also serve the social obligations of the Railways by providing link for the people of the KBK areas of the State.

The Daitari-Banspani rail link in the State was sanctioned in the year 1992-93. The total length is 155 kilometres, and a sum of Rs. 128.61 crore have been earmarked in the current Budget which has to be spent by the Rail Vikas Nigam Limited. The target of completion has been revised many times. Nobody knows whether the Rail Vikas Nigam Limited could raise the required fund and be able to spend the entire amount in the year 2005-06.

The Lanjigarh-Junagarh rail line was mooted for the development of the KBK region in the State. Although, in other areas, the Central Government have accorded priority to the development of this area. I may tell you that the Railways have done nothing in this regard. Only a sum of Rs. 8 crore have been earmarked for the current year. Since 1992-93, when the project was originally sanctioned, an anticipated amount of Rs. 26 crore might have been spent till date against the anticipated total amount of Rs. 119 and odd crore for its completion. Therefore, the project needs to be taken up on an urgent basis.

The Haridaspur-Paradeep line was conceived of as a link line for the Paradeep Port. With the completion of this line, movement of goods from Paradeep Port would increase tremendously removing the present transport bottleneck. Allocation for this rail link is also quite meagre in comparison to the requirements. Only Rs. 20 crore have been provided for in the Budget, which has to be spent again by the Rail Vikas Nigam Limited. For Angul-Sukinda Road rail link and Talcher-Bimalagarh rail link, only a paltry amount of Rs. 10 lakh and Rs. 5 crore have been provided respectively. Similarly, the allocation for Talcher-Samblapur and Koraput-Rayagada is not adequate.

For gauge conversions in Naupada-Gunupur link and Rupsa-Bangriposi, only Rs. 5 crore and Rs. 3 crore respectively have been provided, which is too meagre. Regarding the doubling of lines from Rajatgarh-Nergundi and Raghunathpur-Rahama, only Rs. 1 lakh have been provided for both the projects.

I, therefore, urge upon the hon. Railway Minister that sufficient funds may be provided for the completion of all the ongoing projects in the State of Orissa.

SHRI BRAHMANANDA PANDA (JAGATSINGHPUR):*Sir, I am grateful that you have allowed me to participate in the discussion on the Railway Budget. As you are well aware my State Orissa is full of natural resources. But it has always been neglected by the Ministry of Railways. Orissa occupies an insignificant position in the Railway map of India. The current Railway Budget is anti-development and it is rather evident that the Railway Minister has not given any attention to the welfare of Orissa. I want to remind him that on 26th October 2004, last year, an all-party delegation headed by the Speaker of Legislative Assembly had met him. The delegation had also met the Prime Minister to appraise about the needs of Orissa. All-party delegations had submitted a memorandum relating to the expansion and development of railway network in Orissa. Both the Railway Minister and the Minister of State for Railways had participated in the discussion and promised to pay serious attention to it. However, it is very unfortunate that the present Railway Budget contains no such provision which will benefit Orissa. It is a highly disappointing Budget and has hurt the sentiment and self-respect of Orissa.

Sir, as you are well aware Orissa is a backward State with maximum people below the poverty line. In order to keep pace with progress Orissa should have been bestowed with benevolence by the Railways. But it has not happened. We had expected that the UPA Government with its Railway Minister who hails from Bihar will consider Orissa’s case with sympathy especially because our boundaries touch each other. The creator of modern Utkal Utkalgourav Madhusudan Das had occupied a ministerial berth in erstwhile Bihar. Orissa is a peace loving State which enshrines the noble Jagannatha cult that believes in humanitarian values, harmony and goodwill. Contrary to the promises made to us by the Railway Minister as well as the Prime Minister we have been deceived.

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*Translations of the Speech originally delivered in Oriya.

Railways constitute an important part in the progress of India. The progress of India does not mean that only few States will get priority and States like Orissa will suffer. We have no objection if other States get good package but Orissa should not be neglected. I want to remind here that the present Chief Minister of Orissa Shri Naveen Patnaik is doing his best to transform Orissa into an industrial State. He has signed several MOUs with different organisations and institutions for the prosperity of Orissa. In the absence of a basic infrastructure like the Railways all these agreements are not seeing the light of the day.

Hon. Railway Minister Sir, I want to draw your attention to the fact that several districts of Orissa continue to remain untouched by the Railways. Had Madras not been connected to Delhi and Calcutta, I don’t think Orissa would have ever got connected to the rest of India. There are several unfinished railway projects, which are pending for the last 2 decades. There is no clear picture as to when will the work of doubling of railway line get completed. The doubling of Railway track over river Mahanadi is very vital as it connects Paradeep, the port city of Orissa. Unnecessary delay in this work means loss of revenue for the country.

Sir, the State Government had made a Demand for Grant of Rs 780 crore for Orissa. However, the Railway Budget has not even made provision for half the amount. This is sheer, deliberate negligence. The East Coast zone has always been a profit-making zone contributing substantially to the Indian Railways. But the revenue has never been utilised to benefit any project in Orissa or for the development of East Coast Railways. There is no announcement for induction of new trains or laying down of new railway tracks. A long pending demand was to create a new Railway Division at Jharsuguda which has been brushed aside. The Nizamuddin-Bhubaneswar Express has been further extended upto Vishakhapatanam which is very inconvenient for the people of Orissa. Another demand was to make New Delhi-Bhubaneswar Rajdhani Express ply on a daily basis which at present runs twice a week. There was also a demand to make it go through Sambalpur at least twice a week which has been ignored. Similarly the Railway Minister has ignored the demand to increase the frequency of Burla-Ahmedabad Express. Railway line projects pending between Khurda-Bolangir, Berhampur-Phulbani needs immediate completion. A survey must be conducted to extend the line of Lanjigarh-Junagarh upto Ambaguda. I want to draw your attention that if the Titlagarh-Raipur line is doubled it will provide connectivity to at least five steel plants in the area.

Sir, several railway stations in Orissa need modernisation and upgradation. They were established during the British era and have not been privy to any sort of modernisation as yet. The Haridaspur-Paradeep railway line construction work should be completed soon. All facilities should be extended to ensure that important trains like Rajdhani and Shatabdi Express halt at smaller stations like Dhanmondel and Jajpur. The DMU train from Palasa should leave the station at 5.15 AM instead of 4.15 and reach Berhampur at 6.15 AM. This will serve the interest of people very much.

Sir, I thank you for allowing me to speak in this august House.

MR. CHAIRMAN (SHRI ARJUN SETHI): Hon. Members, there is one announcement. Today, all arrangements have been made for dinner, which is going to be served in Room No. 70 from 8 o’ clock onwards. The dinner has also been arranged for the staff in Room No. 73. So, those hon. Members who want to take their dinner can go to Room No. 70.

SHRI P.C. THOMAS (MUVATTUPUZHA): Sir, is it from the pantry of the running train!… (Interruptions)

DR. C. KRISHNAN (POLLACHI): Thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to speak on the Railway Budget 2005-06.

I am speaking on behalf of MDMK, headed by Mr. Vaiko who was kept in prison for 19 months by the unruly Tamil Nadu Government by misusing POTA.

My first and foremost request will be for conversion of meter gauge line into broad gauge from Coimbatore to Dindigal via Pollachi and Palani. Coimbatore to Dindigal will be about 140 kms. distance. Pollachi should be linked to Palghat, which is about 40 kms. The conversion of this broad gauge from Palghat to Pollachi via Palani, Dindigal will form a by-pass route for Kerala, up to Kanyakumari. A survey of this project was conducted during Madam Mamata Banerjee’s time and on that basis, our present Ministers, Shri Velu and Shri Lalu Prasadji have asked for updating of the project, which was done during the previous Budget. Now, they have allotted Rs.85 lakh in this Budget and during the last Budget an amount of Rs.50 lakh was allotted.

With this, they had completed updating the project for conversion to broad gauge. I should thank the Ministers for taking such steps. Pollachi is a very famous centre having about two crores of coconut trees. Coconuts will have to be transported throughout the country and the by-products of that tree like coir products have a great export potential.

We have very great tourist centres like Palani which is a pilgrim centre, attracting thousands of pilgrims from all over the country. Topslip is a hilly area where we have Indira Gandhi Wildlife Sanctuary and it is a tourist centre, attracting huge crowd throughout the year. Valparai is another hilly area, attracting tourists. We also have about four dams in my area – Trimurthi Dam, Amaravathi Dam, Solaiyar Dam and Aliyar Dam. These are all very nice places for tourists’ entertainment.

Further, a computerised reservation centre should be allotted for Udumalpet, which is my hometown. In the Budget, about 150 such centres were announced and one may be allotted to Udumalpet.

I am thankful to the hon. Railway Ministers for the new line that they had announced in the Budget, that is, from Erode-Palani via Dharapuram which is my constituency. I am very grateful to them for this. It is about 115 kms and an amount of Rs.5.75 crore is required. An amount of Rs.2.5 crore has been allotted in this Budget itself, which is a very great thing. I wish that new line may be started early and the work may be completed at an early date.

I would request that Virudunagar-Manamadurai broad gauge conversion should be undertaken and completed as early as possible.

A number of road over bridges are required. For example, a road over bridge from Coimbatore to Pollachi, from Coimbatore near Kuruchi and between Kinathukadavu-Pollachi are required. Another road over bridge at Kottur-Malaiyandi Pattanam leading to Valparai area, which is very narrow, requires to be broadened. On behalf of the State Government, which is not hearing the voice of the people, I am ready to give my MPLAD Fund for that. If I am asked to give my MPLAD Fund for that bridge, I am ready to give some money needed for it. Kottur-Malaiyandi Pattanam narrow level crossing may be converted into an over bridge.

There is a requirement for road over bridge at Udumalpet.. It should be completed by allocating money. There is a requirement for underground – at least under the railway track – two-wheeler track. For this also I am ready to allocate my MPLAD Fund.

With these few words, I would like to thank the hon. Minister for allocating fund required for updating the Pullachi broad gauge link as well as for new line from Erode to Palani via Dharapuram.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Hon. Members Shri Toofani Saroj and Shri Parasnath Yadav wants to lay their speeches. They may lay their speeches now.

19.02 hrs.

(Shri Devendra Prasad Yadav in the Chair)

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*Speech was laid on the Table.

SHRI M. P. VEERENDRA KUMAR (CALICUT): *Sir, I would like to bring before the House certain facts regarding the Railway Budget 2005-2006.

The Indian Railways, which runs 14,000 trains daily and which is the world’s largest single employer after China’s Army, accounts for three per cent of the Central Government’s spending. The biggest of the world’s four railway networks, I should say, it needs more professionalism and less vested interests. Rs. 43,000 crore investment is needed to complete some 230 railway projects. Project worth Rs. 20,000 crore will remain unfinished even after five years.

On the wagon front, there is an estimated shortage of 20,000 wagons and this has to be urgently addressed.

It is heartening to note that passenger fares have not been increased. Thirteen million passengers will be benefited by this decision, which my Party welcomes. The Railway Minister has also given concessions to the farmers. Rural students and also those who attend interviews for State Government jobs are given concessions. I congratulate the Hon. Railway Minister Lalooji for this kind gesture.

Regarding freight charges, there is to be revision in the rates. The group of commodities have been merged to reduce their total number from 4000 to 80. The Chairman of the Railway Board had told the Press that this revision in freight rates will net Rs. 650 crore increase in receipts. What does it mean? That there will be an increase in rates across the board, which will adversely affect a consumer state like Kerala.

Considering 62 paise of every rupee earned by the Railways coming from freight traffic, the investments in the sector would be substantial.

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Sir, I have to point out painfully that during the budget exercises Kerala is ignored. I have to mention specially that Malabar area is totally neglected. Always this has been our experience. After the presentation of the budget, there were strong protests in Kerala that all the M.Ps. from the State, irrespective of the political affiliation, had to stage a satyagraha before the Parliament. We presented a memorandum consisting the bare needs of the State to the Hon. Prime Minister and we are grateful to the P.M. for giving us a patient hearing and showing concern. Later on, the hon. Railway Minister Shri Laloo Prasad Yadavji called all the Kerala M.Ps. for a discussion and gave us opportunity to place before him our just demands. The Railway Bard Chairman and officials were present during the discussion. I thank Lalooji for giving us this opportunity.

I would like to place before the house the issues confronting Kerala in the Railway sector.

Sir, in the Budget, 46 new trains have been announced. But not a single train is given to Kerala. Not only that, whatever we had before was taken off. For example, the Kerala Express, which was connecting the national Capital and our State Capital, is extended up to Chandigarh. Of course, I agree the Keralites in Chandigarh and elsewhere must have facility to travel to Kerala. We demand the status quo of the Kerala Express must be maintained and a new train from Chandigarh to Trivandrum should be introduced.

Sir, earlier the Railway Action Committee of Calicut, comprising all the political parties and various organisations, met the hon. Minister Laloo Prasad Yadavji and he had directed the Railway Board to hear us. We explained to the Board our problems and presented a C.D. highlighting the unfinished over bridges and the pathetic condition of Kozhikode Railway Station and also very old railway compartments that are still in service. Even after this, nothing was done.

Sir, I am placing before the Hon. Minister some of our urgent needs:

More funds must urgently be allocated to expedite the completion of railway line doubling work. Kerala gave the State’s share for the construction of Konken railway on the understanding that the Shornur – Mangalore line would be doubled. In 1996, the Budget allotment was made for this doubling work. But the work is yet to be completed. Rs. 125 crore is needed for the completion of Shoranur – Mangalore Railway line doubling work. Only Rs. 25 crore is earmarked in the Railway Budget.

More funds are required for the completion of electrification work between Thirubananthapuram and Ernakulam.

The doubling work Ernakulam – Kayamkulam via Kottayam and Alappuzha is a must for the developmental need of Kerala. Sir, sufficient fund must be allotted for this work.

The gauge conversion Palakkad – Pollachi and Kollam-Chengotta sector has to be taken up and completed. For this, more funds should be allotted. The work of Nethravathi bridge must be completed on a war footing.

Nanjangude – Wayanad – Gudallur – Nilambur railway link: The growing importance of this rail link need not be over emphasised, especially in view of the huge volume of the container traffic anticipated when international container terminal at Vallarpadom is completed in a couple of years. Similarly, the LNG terminal at Cochin also will attract a huge tanker traffic from north to south. With the opening of this new link, the time and distance for rail transport from Bangalore, Mysore, Hyderabad etc. will be reduced by eight hours (over 300 KM distance). Moreover, this new link passes through the plantation area (Wayanad and Gudallur ) and connects Nilambur in Malappuram District. This link will also connect Karnataka, Kerala and Tamil Nadu. Therefore, urgent steps should be taken to accord sanction for this line.

The extension of Trivandrum – Delhi Kerala Express to Chandigarh is in no way helpful to Keralites. Actually, we need more Delhi – Kerala trains.

Enough funds have not been allotted even to the existing projects like doubling and electrification of railway lines. Rs. 125 crore is needed to complete the doubling lines. But the allocation is only 25 crore.

And the provisions for different projects in Kerala this year is lesser than that of last year. Last year, the allocation was Rs. 138 crore. Apart from this, Kerala had a share of Rs. 61 crore from Railway Safety Fund. But, this year, it is only just over 100 crore.

The Thiruvananthapuram – Mangalore Maveli Express via Alappuzha, which runs twice a week now, to be converted into a daily service.

A new train may be started between Bangalore and Thiruvananthapuram.

A new inter-city service may be sanctioned between Thiruvananthapuram and Coimbatore.

A new train from Goa to Chennai via Palakkad.

Thiruananthapuram – Kannur Express may be extended upto Kasaragode.

Kannur – Bangalore Express to make daily service.

Kasaragode – Guruvayur via Trichur Fast Passenger: Since the Guruvayur – Tanur link has not yet been taken up, despite complete sanction of the project long before, great difficulty is being experienced by the people from Northern parts to travel to this great place of worship. A passenger train between Kasaragode and Guruvayur via Trichur will be of immense help. Urgent steps should be taken to start and expedite the Guruvayur – Tanur rail link to achieve the expected result.

Calicut- Model Station: Calicut was declared as a model railway station in 1999 aimed at providing all the required facilities. During discussions held earlier with concerned authorities by the representatives of the various organisations, an assurance was given that the work will be taken up and completed at the earliest. But, unfortunately, the work has not yet been completed. If the authorities take some more interest, the work could be completed in three months’ time.

Speedy completion of railway over bridges: Seven over bridges, i.e., Vengalam, Chengottukavu, Nadi (Calicut District), Muzhuppilangad, Nadal, Thazhechovva (Kannur District), Padannakad (Kassargode District) proposed between Calicut and Mangalore are under construction. The work for the above projects is dead slow. This has to be expedited.

Sir, I hope the hon. Railway Minister, Lalooji, will consider our earnest and genuine demands and make a positive announcement during his reply to the debate. We, the people of Kerala, will feel that we are also the part of India.

MR. CHAIRMAN (SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD YADAV) Shri Rupchand Pal. I am allowing you to lay your speech on the Table.

SHRI RUPCHAND PAL (HOOGHLY): I am conscious of it. I want to lay my speech on the Table of the House.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes, I am allowing it.

SHRI RUPCHAND PAL (HOOGHLY): Thank you, Sir. I lay my speech on the Table of the House..

MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri A.R. Shaheen.

SHRI RUPCHAND PAL (HOOGHLY): *Hon. Sir, I would like to suggest that the following urgent public demands be incorporated in this year’s Railway Budget (Demands for Grants-Railways 2005-06).

Some of the Demands have been pending for a pretty long time; some others are under consideration by the Railway Ministry; a few of them, as mentioned below, are in the process but implementation has been delayed inordinately.

I urge upon the Railway Ministry to take up the issues in the right earnest:

1) Early completion of the foot-bridge at Bandel in the Howrah Division of Eastern Railway which is being unnecessarily delayed and causing inconvenience to bona fide Railway passengers;

Long pending problem of acute water-logging at both Bazpara and platform sub-way at Bandel in the Howrah Division of Eastern Railway. An early solution to this acute water-logging problem is a long-pending issue as hundreds and thousands of people, railway passengers not only face serious inconvenience and hardship but their economic and social life comes to a standstill whenever there is some rains in and out of season;

The problem of water-logging at Adi Shaptagram, Hooghly Station, Bhadreshwar, Chandannagar, Mankundu and Mogra. Urgent solution of water-logging problem and the repair of the roads in the underpass sub-way is urgently required;

Better passenger facilities like provision of drinking water, better public address system, sitting arrangement for the aged and ailing passengers, better lighting in Railway Stations like Bandel, Hooghly, Bhadreshwar, Chandannagar, Mankundu, Mogra, Adi Shaptagram is urgently required;

There is pressing need for increasing the number of suburban trains between Bandel and Howrah as the existing number cannot cope with the

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steep increase in the number of passengers and over-crowding of the trains is affecting the safety of the passengers in a big way. Also, the need to run more trains between Bandel and Sealdah (Kolkata) via Hooghlyghat and Naihati;

Urgent need to replace of Jubilee Bridge existing between Hooghlyghat and Garifa across the river Ganges by a new modern bridge. Facility should be there for road transport also and in view of the financial constraint of the State Governments, the full financial responsibility to be borne by the Railways only for the road transport facilities which will help the Railway passengers also;

There is need to urgently construct an under-pass at Mustafapur point near Kamarkundu Railway Station in the Howrah-Burdwan chord to facilitate normal movement of the residents of the village Mustafapur;

There is urgent need to construct “Pay & Use” toilet and provision of drinking water facilities at Chinsurah and Chandannagar Railway Station;

There is urgent need to widen the under-pass at Chandranagar as suggested by the Citizens’ Committee and Chandannagar Muncipal Corporation;

Immediate need to provide land to Haripal Panchayat Samity in the District of Hooghly for construction of a Bus Stand in the interest of Railway passengers boarding at Haripal Railway Station;

There is urgent need to construct a new level crossing at Chandanpur in the Howrah-Burdwan chord line for which a good amount was provided earlier from MPLADS fund but could not be used by the Railways;

There is urgent need to construct a new platform sub-way at Bandel in the Howrah Division of Eastern Railway connecting all the platforms;

There is urgent need to provide more funds to expedite the progress of doubling the Railway line between Bandel and Katwa and Sheraphuli and Tarakeswar;

Need to arrange extension of Railway line from Howrah-Burdwan chord to Tarakeswar Branch line near Nalikul;

There is urgent need to provide Railway land adjacent to Singur Railway Station in Tarakeswar Branch line of Howrah Division to facilitate movement of Railway passengers boarding at Singur;

There is urgent need to construct Road Over Bridge (ROB) at Mogra-G.T Road crossing and Kamarkundu-Tarakeshwar Road crossing;

Urgent need to construct a Halting Station at Khurigachi between Baidyabati and Bhadrawar in Howrah-Bandel line in Howrah Division;

To extend and modernize the platforms and augment passenger amenities at Howrah and Sealdah Stations;

To expedite the extension of Kolkata Metro up to Barrackpore and Ramrajatala in Howrah District across the Ganges;

To take urgent steps to ensure safety and security for the Railway passengers.

Mr. CHAIRMAN : Shri A.R. Shaheen.

SHRI ABDUL RASHID SHAHEEN (BARAMULLA): Sir, I rise to utilise this limited opportunity at the late hour to participate in the discussion on the Railway Budget. I will very precisely restrict myself to the problems and the achievements of Railways in Jammu and Kashmir.

About Jammu and Kashmir, it was a dream to be connected to the Railways. After the partition of the country, after pretty long years, we got connected to the Railways from Pathankot to Jammu. Then onwards, the continuity of this railway line started somewhere in 1983.

The first phase of our railway link to Jammu and Kashmir is from Jalandhar-Pathankot to Jammu. We were expecting that after so many years, the concern of the people of Jammu and Kashmir, the traders, the people who are in the industry, the people who are in the economic activity of the State, would be addressed. We were feeling that the double link of Jalandhar-Jammu would be completed as early as possible. A mention has been made in this Budget Speech that a sum of Rs.296 crore is required to complete that double link which we are yearning for so many years. We were expecting that in the nearest future that would be completed.

A mention has been made by the hon. Railway Minister that with the other 318 projects of the country, Jammu-Jallandhar double link would be completed. We have our fears. The second phase of the railway to Kashmiri from Jammu to Udhampur has started in 1983. For 15 long years, we have been able to achieve 17 kms. up to Majaldha. It was only the previous Government which was so kind enough to understand the problems that they allocated funds for speedy completion of this portion. We were told in the last Budget Speech by the former Railway Minister on 30th January that the line between Jammu and Udhampur had been completed. There was a thumping applause from this House to the Minister. He had made a mention that this link would be opened on 15th March, 2004. The Present Railway Minister also made a mention of it in his previous Budget speech that this link was completed. He did not, of course, say about the time but he made a mention that the Uttar Sampark Kranti Express would be rolled on that link which will connect Delhi, Punjab Jammu and then Udhampur. We were expecting that within the scheduled time the Udhampur line would be inaugurated. But we do not know when it will be done. Our people have fears in our minds. There are stories about it saying that there are some bigger problems in this project which we have achieved after 25 long years. If that is the pace of development, then, we fear about it. We have got suspicions about the hard and difficult terrain from Udhampur onwards up to Qazigund. It is a very difficult terrain. Of course, I feel to be honest about the fact that our railway engineers, scientists and planners have a bigger challenge in that track because the rock is not very stable. There are so many challenges of weather and the scenario of the area. An announcement has been made saying that this is a very important national project and this would be achieved within the scheduled time.

Then, I have real suspicion. I do not know how the targets are fixed. About one portion of this railway link, it has been mentioned that it would be inaugurated and started in the year 2005.

In that segment of the rail link, there is a big amount which is yet to be spent. I do not know how that will be spent in 2005-06.

Then, from Kazigund onwards to Baramulla, the work in that section has, of course, been progressing fast. We want to place our praise on record for the people who are working in that section. They have worked very hard and we expect that this section will be commissioned very soon.

I would like to bring to the attention of the hon. Railway Minister that the portion of the railway line from Kazigund to Baramulla is not that important as is the portion which connects it to Udhampur and then connects us with the railway network of the rest of the country. This portion is very important in the whole line. When we make an investment, that investment must give us a return and we must be able to mention that this greatest challenge was faced by our technical wings of Railway Deptt. despite that it got completed land Kashmir has been connected to Kanyakumari through this rail link which was a dream of our elders. I must place our gratitude on record for the visionary Maharaja of Jammu and Kashmir who had started the survey work of this railway track 105 years ago when M/s Scott and Company and another engineering company were put on this job. I hope that that survey must have given considerable support to the people who have been working on this railway track.

I very precisely would like to request the Railway Minister that he should pay attention towards this project because there is a very big suspicion in the minds of the people about the completion of this project. It has been mentioned in the Budget Speech of the hon. Finance Minister that this a project of national importance. But what is the allocation of fund for this project? It has neither been mentioned in the Railway Budget nor has it been mentioned by the hon. Finance Minister in his Budget Speech, though I am very sure that the Government is seized of this matter and this project will not starve for funds. But there are some necessary steps which are to be taken and I will precisely enunciate them.

Sir, when we start from Jammu, the Jammu Railway Station is slightly bigger than the artificial railway station which has been built at the Ramoji Film Studios. I have seen that railway station. We have a lot of pilgrims coming to Jammu Railway Station during peak months and there is always a threat of stampede also when yatris go on Vaishnodevi yatra. The hon. Minister should kindly pay enough attention to this matter and provide necessary facilities to Jammu Railway Station.

Then, comes the second phase Jammu-Udhampur railway line, that should be inaugurated soon. In case, the Railways have some problem, the hon. Minister must take the nation into confidence about such problems. Secondly, we do not know anything about the progress of the work in the stretch of 142 kms. from Udhampur to Kazigund. This is very difficult terrain. The hon. Minister should kindly take the people into confidence as to what is happening there. My precise suggestion to the Minister is that he should form a Sub-Committee of the five Members of Parliament who have been elected from the areas, through which this railway link runs to overcome the problems of environment which the Railway can create after the line is completed people have certain serious doubts about it. We all know about the kind of devastation which recently took over many areas in Kashmir. So, I think, if the elected representatives are associated with this project, there will be better communication between the people and the technical staff who are connected with the execution of this project.

*Speech was laid on the Table.

*Speech was laid on the Table.

SHRI TAPIR GAO (ARUNACHAL EAST): Hon. Chairman, Sir, I am very happy that you have given me this opportunity.

First of all, I would like to say that as an individual and on behalf of the people of Arunachal Pradesh and the North-East, I am totally against any Indian Railway Budget. Sir, I would like to draw your kind attention to the fact that since Independence, more than 50 years of free India, not even a single railway track has reached Arunachal Pradesh territory. ªÉÉÊn <VÉÉVÉiÉ cÉä iÉÉä àÉé àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ ºÉä ªÉc {ÉÚUÚÆ ÉÊBÉE <ºÉ ºÉnxÉ àÉå +ÉÉ{É ãÉÉäMÉÉå àÉå ºÉä ÉÊBÉEiÉxÉä ãÉÉäMÉ +ɰôhÉÉSÉãÉ |Énä¶É BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå VÉÉxÉiÉä cé* àÉé FÉàÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÆ, àÉé <ºÉ ºÉnxÉ àÉå iÉÉÒxÉ ãÉÉäMÉÉå BÉEä xÉÉàÉ ¤ÉiÉãÉÉ ºÉBÉEiÉÉ cÚÆ ÉÊBÉE <xÉ iÉÉÒxÉ ®äãÉ àÉÆÉÊjɪÉÉå BÉEÉä +ÉâóhÉÉSÉãÉ |Énä¶É +ÉÉè® {ÉÚ´ÉÉækÉ® ®ÉVªÉÉå BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå ÉʤÉãBÉÖEãÉ xÉÉìÉÊãÉVÉ xÉcÉÓ cè* àÉé ÉÊcàÉÉãÉªÉ {É´ÉÇiÉ àÉå ®äãÉ´Éä xÉcÉÓ ãÉä VÉÉxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ* àÉé SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÆ ÉÊBÉE VÉcÉÆ iÉBÉE ®äãÉ´Éä BÉEÉ VÉÉxÉÉ =ÉÊSÉiÉ cè, VÉcÉÆ iÉBÉE ®äãÉ´Éä VÉÉ ºÉBÉEiÉÉÒ cè, ´ÉcÉÆ iÉBÉE SÉãÉä* <ºÉ ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå àÉéxÉä ÉÊ{ÉUãÉä ®äãÉ ¤ÉVÉ] BÉEä ºÉàÉªÉ BÉEcÉ lÉÉ iÉÉä ãÉÉãÉÚ VÉÉÒ xÉä BÉEcÉ lÉÉ ÉÊBÉE +ÉÉ{É ÉÊãÉÉÊJÉiÉ àÉå nä nÉÒÉÊVÉA, àÉéxÉä ÉÊãÉÉÊJÉiÉ àÉå nä ÉÊnªÉÉ*

I have received the acknowledgement for my proposal for Rangia-Murkong Selek line. The right bank of the Brahmaputra river in Assam is totally neglected. ªÉÉ iÉÉä <ºÉBÉEÉä <ÆÉÊbªÉxÉ cèÉÊ®]äVÉ ®äãÉ´Éä àÉå ®ÉÊJɪÉä, ªÉÉ iÉÉä take up work on this immediately. It is important not only for the public but it is important also from the economic point of view. This is very important also from the defence point of view.

Arunachal Pradesh can produce more than 50,000 megawatts of electricity. We have water resources for generation of more that 12 Hydero-megawatts projects under NEEPCO. Under the NHPC, more than 12 Hydero-megawatts projects are coming up in that region but no action has been taken by the Railways for upgrading and converting lines into broad-gauge. ªÉä ãÉè{ÉD] ¤ÉéBÉE +ÉÉì{ÉE ¥ÉÿàÉ{ÉÖjÉ BÉEÉ ¤ÉcÖiÉ ¤É½É nÖ£ÉÉÇMªÉ cè +ÉÉè® ªÉc BÉEä´ÉãÉ +ɺÉàÉ BÉEÉ xÉcÉÓ cè* ÉÊVÉiÉxÉÉÒ +ÉÉàÉÉÔ, ¤ÉÉÒAºÉA{ÉE +ÉÉè® {Éè®É ÉÊàÉÉÊãÉ]ÅÉÒ {ÉEÉäºÉæWÉ SÉÉ<xÉÉ ¤ÉÉbÇ® iÉlÉÉ ÉÊcàÉÉãɪÉxÉ ®åVÉ àÉå cè, =ºÉBÉEÉ ªÉcÉÒ °ô] cè* <ºÉÉÊãÉA àÉéxÉä c®àÉiÉÉÒ ºÉä <Ç]ÉxÉMÉ® BÉEä ÉÊãÉA |É{ÉÉäWÉãÉ ÉÊnªÉÉ lÉÉ*

In the map of Indian Railways, up to some extent work has been initiated in Manipur but Arunachal Pradesh, Mizoram and Sikkim have been totally cut off from the rest of the country. India needs the territory of Arunachal Pradesh but it does not want to provide the facilities. Today, there is no civil aviation or national highway in Arunachal Pradesh. In NH-52 from Tezpur to Pasighat in East Siang district, more than 12 wooden bridges are existing. While this is the case in national highways, what to speak of railway lines!

The second proposal was for the Harmati-Itanagar line. There were other proposals for extension of 37 kilometres of the line from Murkong Selek to Pasighat and another line from Tinsukia to Parasuramkund. Parasuramkund is a place of historical importance which lakhs and lakhs of devotees visit regularly.

I am totally against the Railway Budget. In the next financial year, if the UPA Government is there to present the Railway Budget, I would congratulate seeing its activities in the North-Eastern region.

‘Bharatiya rail’ means something connecting the entire country, all the States of the country, and connecting all the people of the country.

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Before becoming a Member of Parliament, I was a member of the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Commission and Vice Chairman in the Tribal Commission.

I would like to point out here that decentralisation of employment opportunities for Groups C and D are very important. As pointed out by the Members from Bihar, until and unless we do not have decentralisation for Groups C and D ªÉc iÉxÉÉ´É, ªÉä ÉÊb{ÉE®åºÉäºÉ +ÉÉè® ªÉc àÉÉ®-{ÉÉÒ] cÉäiÉÉÒ ®cäMÉÉÒ* <ºÉÉÊãÉA àÉé <ºÉä ºÉ¤ÉºÉä Vɰô®ÉÒ àÉÉxÉiÉÉ cÚÆ* ºÉ® ´ÉcÉÆ ®äãÉ´Éä BÉEÉÒ ºÉÖÉÊ´ÉvÉÉAÆ xÉcÉÓ cÉäxÉä BÉEä BÉEÉ®hÉ AäºÉÉ cÉä ®cÉ cè* The job opportunities are not there for the young and educated people of the North-East. … (Interruptions) How many North-East people are there in the Indian Railways? It is three percent or so. That is why, special recruitment is necessary. The creation of job opportunities for the North-Eastern Region is important. On top of that, when I was a Member of the National Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Commission, I had seen that there was a backlog of more than 30,000 posts for Groups C and D. Last time also, the hon. Minister of Railways, Shri Lalu Prasad, had promised that he would look into this backlog problem. àÉcÉänªÉ, ¶ÉäbáÉÚãb BÉEɺ]ºÉ, ¶ÉäbáÉÚãb ]ÅÉ<¤ºÉ, +ÉÉä.¤ÉÉÒ.ºÉÉÒ. +ÉÉè® +ÉxªÉ ÉÊ®VÉ´ÉÇ BÉEè]äMÉ®ÉÒ BÉEä 50 cVÉÉ® {Én ÉÊ®BÉDiÉ cé* That is why, my strong demand for Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and Other Backward Classes is 50 cVÉÉ® ÉÊ®BÉDiÉ {ÉnÉå BÉEÉä £É®xÉä BÉEä ÉÊãÉA +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉä ABÉE º{Éä¶ÉãÉ bÅÉ<´É SÉãÉÉxÉÉ SÉÉÉÊcA* Many people are dying because of this problem. A lot of job opportunities are there but we are not extending these opportunities to the Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe people of our country.

Sir, with these few words, I would like to thank the hon. Minister of Railways for further consideration of extending the railway lines to the North-Eastern Region especially to Arunachal Pradesh.

SHRI S.K. KHARVENTHAN (PALANI): Mr. Chairman Sir, I rise to support the Railway Budget on behalf of my Party, the Indian National Congress, and on behalf of my leader, Shrimati Sonia Gandhi. First of all, I want to thank the hon. Minister of Railways, Shri Lalu Prasad, for the presentation of this populist Budget which is being welcomed by one and all in this country. More importantly, I want to thank the hon. Minister, Shri Lalu Prasad, Shri R. Velu and Shri Naranbhai Rathwa for sanctioning the new line between Erode and Palani. It was the long-pending demand of the people of that region, that is, Dharapuram, Kangeyam and Chennimalai

Sir, I want to mention here that during 1950, the length of the Indian Railway lines was 54,000 kilometres. After 50 years, that is, in the year 2000, it was developed only to 63,000 kilometres. So, the progress is only 17 per cent. As compared with the road development, in the year 1950, we had only 9 lakh kilometres and after 50 years in 2000, it was extended to 36 lakh kilometres, that is, 400 per cent development. The reason being that all the Government had concentrated on allocating funds for the development of roads. I would like to point out here that the National Highways Authority was created and Rs. 62,000 crore were allotted exclusively for the road development.

In the same manner, sufficient and necessary funds have to be allocated for Railways. Then only the Railway lines will increase in this country. Why I am saying this is because the people residing in the villages are thinking that rail journey is like air journey to them. For example, I want to mention that if one person wants to travel in a train he is paying 13 paise per kilometer whereas when he travels by bus he is paying 25 paise. That is the situation in this country. The railway lines can only connect throughout the North, South, East and West of the nation. Hence, the Government has to allocate specific funds for the development of the railway lines.

I would request that our Government has to aim to achieve the goal of two lakh kilometer broad gauge lines without converting the meter gauge lines into broad gauge. Throughout the country, in six States, there are 15,000 kilometers of meter gauge which is 25 per cent of the total railway line available in this country. Without taking steps to convert these 15,000 kilometers of meter gauge lines into broad gauge, we have to construct new broad gauge lines. Then, automatically the total rail length of 63,000 kilometers of the country will be raised to 78,000 kilometers. When compared to converting the faulty meter gauge into broad gauge, for the construction of new broad gauge lines the expenses will be less. Moreover, by using these meter gauge lines, we can operate passenger trains. Hence, instead of converting meter gauge into broad gauge, we should have new broad gauge lines to be constructed throughout the country.

For example, I want to mention that instead of taking out the meter gauge line between Trichy-Dindigul-Madurai, if we can form a new broad gauge line between Trichhy-Viralimalai-Natham-Melur-Madurai, it would give more income and also the traffic will decrease. If this line is formed, then it will be easier for the goods to reach Tuticorin port. The distance and the transport expense would be reduced. The traffic on Trichy-Dindigul-Madurai line would also be reduced. In the meter gauge, by not removing the Trichy-Dindigul-Madurai section, we can operate passenger trains and the people of this region would reach Palani, Quilon and Rameshwaram easily from Trichy. Hence, a new broad gauge line as suggested above is to be formed without gauge conversion.

In Tamil Nadu the total length of meter gauge is 4,010 kilometers and that of broad gauge is 3,195 kilometers. The gauge conversion will not increase the length of railway lines. But the new broad gauge line should be formed early.
I would like to mention that certain important new lines are to be formed in Tamil Nadu. They are :

Coimbatore-Palladam-Kangeyam-Karur connecting two textile cities. Coimbatore is the Manchester of South India.

Palladam-Dharapuram-Karur-Trichy

Dindigul-Natham-Karaikudi

Madurai-Natham-Trichy

Palladam-Dharapuram-Oddanchatram-Dindigul. Oddanchatram is famous for vegetables which are exported throughout the country.

The long-pending request of the people of Mayiladuturai, Tiruvarur, Pattukottai, Peravoorani, Aranthangi and Karaikudi is to have a new broad gauge line between Mayiladuturai and Karaikudi. The survey work is already completed between Dindigul and Sabarimalai, that is 201 kilometers. That work has to be taken up immediately. Lakhs of devotees from throughout the country are going to Sabarimalai every year.

The gauge conversion of Dindigul-Coimbatore line is to be completed. I want to particularly congratulate the hon. Minister for Railways for the implementation of the Paranjpe Committee recommendations, which is Railway Traffic Enquiry Committee for rationalisation of tariffs in this year. The budgetary support to complete the pending schemes need Rs. 50,164 crore. The funds have to be generated for completing the schemes. The Indian Railway Finance Corporation has to mobilise funds.

The Railways have tried the ‘Build, Operate and Transfer (BOT)’ method with Konkan Railway Corporation. This has to be extended to all pending railway schemes and for new schemes. I would submit to the hon. Minister of Railways that unnecessarily keeping unprofitable projects cost unnecessary expenses to the Railways. Those unprofitable projects are to be scrapped.

I would like to make another important request on behalf of the people of my constituency – the railway over-bridge in Engiyur in Kangeyam taluk is already sanctioned. The tender is also over and contract is also given. For the past one-and-a-half years the work is not taken up. This has to be taken up immediately.

In between Dharapuram and Palani, there is a railway crossing in Palani. Lakhs and lakhs of devotees visit the Palani hill temple. Therefore, a Rail Over Bridge (ROB) is necessary in Palani. I am ready to allocate necessary funds for construction of the over-bridge in Palani from the MPLAD Scheme. I request the hon. Minister to consider this proposal and accord sanction immediately.

The doubling line in Tamil Nadu has reached up to Chengalput only. I would request that it must reach till Madurai. The Electrification of the line is extended only till Villupuram. I would request that it should be extended till Tuticorin.

Surveys for more than 112 ROBs and RUBs were completed for Tamil Nadu, but last year only 32 were undertaken. The remaining are yet to be taken up.

I want to mention another point on behalf of the people residing in Delhi. It is about the Nizamuddin Rajdhani Express, which is plying two days in a week, that is, on Friday and Wednesday at 1530 hours. It is impossible for the personnel in the Government service to travel in this train. Hence, the days on which this train runs has to be changed to Saturday, and the time at which it starts has also to be changed. Increasing the frequency of this train is also necessary.

I would like to mention another very important point. “Tirupur” Kumaran died in Tirupur. I have already written a letter to the Government requesting to rename the Tirupur Railway Station as “Tirupur” Kumaran Railway Station.

The first freedom fighter in South India, Thiyagi Dheeran Chinnamalai, was hanged to death by the Britishers at Sankari Fort. I would request that the station should be renamed as Thiyagi Dheeran Chinnamalai Railway Station. This is also one of my requests.

Sir, I thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak here. I am supporting this Railway Budget.

SHRI LALIT MOHAN SUKLABAIDYA (KARIMGANJ): *Sir, I rise to support the Railway Budget for the year 2005-06, which has been presented by the hon. Railway Minister.

The Budget is a passenger-oriented Budget like the last year. A number of news trains are introduced, and the speed of some trains is also increased. The tracks trains and stations are proposed to be improvement so that the Indian Railways becomes the world class railway. Keeping in view the social welfare, many concessions have been granted, including free journey for interviewers who are going for interview for a job. Besides this, the system of reservations has been made easier. All these things were discussed here, and everybody, in and out, appreciated the Railway Budget for being people oriented.

Sir, I wish to place before you the plight of the railway passengers in my region Barak Valley in South Assam. Through this region, Manipur and Tripura can be connected by the railways with the rest of India. The people of this region are suffering for the last 10 years from transportation problem due to the withdrawal of metre gauge from Lumbdig to Guwahati. The gauge conversion from Badarpur to Lumbdig was started some time 10 years back. Last year, the hon. Minister of Railways agreed with me that only 25 per cent work was completed. He assured me in writing that he would try to make it a National Project. I thank him once again for declaring this as a National Project along with Badarpur-Kumarghat in Tripura and Jiribam-Tupul (Imphal) in Manipur.

Now, I would like to request the hon. Railway Minister to construct the Badarpur-Lumbding Section. It should be completed on a priority basis. No train can move to Tripura or Manipur unless the completion of this project. Recently, one pillar, which was under construction for Barak Bridge at Badarpur Ghat, was collapsed. This puts a question mark on the standard of working of Broad gauge. I would like to request the hon. Minister to ensure the quality of work for future safety.

*Speech was laid on the Table.

Regarding safety, I would like to suggest a very important point. We have one peculair rail-cum-road bridge over Katakhal River. This bridge is in a very deplorable condition. Everyday, we find the railway employees are repairing the bridge. The train passes over the bridge at a snail’s pace. Hundreds of vehicles carrying goods and passengers remain stranded at both sides of the bridge. So, in order to avoid major accidents and to save the loss of huge amount of manhour, the track should be diverted soon by immediate completion of nearby bridge, which is under construction for broad gauge. However, I thank the Railway Authority for taking up the repairing work of metre gauge in Barak Valley which was pending for the last seven to eight years.

Sir, I had drawn the attention of the hon. Railway Minister earlier also. The metre gauge railway work in Barak valley moves at very slow speed. The tracks are in a dilapidated condition. There are no passenger amenities at the railway stations. It seems to me that the Railway Authority does not want to attract the passengers. They frequently suspended the trains. ‘Suspension of trains’ means compulsion of the people to travel by road by paying more fare. When a train from Lumbding to Badarpur is suspended, people are compelled to travel by night-super buses on the one hand. On the other hand, the prices of vegetables and other essential commodities rise sharply fearing shortage, as this is the supply line for vegetables and all other essential commodities.

Another important point, which I would like to refer, is that the Railway Authority has closed down some railway stations, including Ramnathpur, Mohammadpur, and in Manipur, the Lalabazar-Bhairavi Section branding as uneconomic.

Sir, there is no system for ticket collecting or checking in many stations. In some stations, the person responsible for ticket selling comes by same train for which he is supposed to sell the ticket. Suspension of railway stations added to the sufferings of the daily commuters, as the road conditions are also deplorable. There is no road in many localities. Therefore, the trains are the only means of transportation to the villagers. The stations so closed were earning revenue for a long time but due to negligence of the Railway Authority in detailing TTC for checking and collecting tickets, and also timely selling of tickets, they are suffering. If the purchase of tickets is enforced by timely opening of ticket counters, if the tickets are checked in running trains, then these stations also would earn revenue as they did earlier. Therefore, I would like to request the Railway Authority to open all the stations immediately and enforce purchase and checking of tickets.

Mr. Chairman, Sir, I want to say that in Badarpur, almost all the Railway quarters are in a dilapidated condition. These are required to be repaired and renovated. If Badarpur, where requisite railway land is available for Divisional Office, is declared as Railway Division, the railway system of Barak Valley will surely improve, and the broad gauge conversion can also be supervised more effectively, and Badarpur can be turned into a nice railway township.

Mr. Chairman, Sir, lastly, I would like to urge upon the hon. Minister for Railways to make provisions for establishment of the proposed sleeper factory in Assam in the first phase instead of the second phase. I would also request to provide one goods express for Assam and also to introduce one overnight express train from Guwahati to Kolkata, which will accelerate trade and commerce in the region and movement to and fro Kolkata will become easier for the common people of the region. I also propose for extension of Karimganj-Dullavchhera railway line up to Cheragi for which I would request the hon. Minister to take action for necessary survey works. Since it is a Budget for the people, I hope, the hon. minister will fulfil our desire also.

With these few words, once again I support the Railway Budget, which is aimed at the welfare of crores of commuters.

DR. ARUN KUMAR SARMA (LAKHIMPUR): Thank you, Sir, for allowing me to speak on the Railway Budget.

This is a populist budget which gave some concessions to various sections of the society. There is no hike imposed in the passenger fares in the Budget. However, as a Member representing the North-Eastern region I am compelled to say that the North-Eastern region is largely discriminated against in this Railway Budget. The people of the North-East have been cheated by manipulation of facts and data.

There was a declaration to the effect that a few ongoing projects like Lumding-Silchar, Agartala-Jiribam are national projects. These are ongoing projects. There is nothing new about it. Not a single kilometre of new survey, not a single kilometre for broad guage conversion, not a single kilometre for doubling and not a single kilometre for electrification has been added in the North-Eastern region in this Budget.

The Prime Minister’s declaration that the 10 per cent of budgetary allocation of every Ministry should be invested in the North-Eastern region is being defied by the Railway Ministry. In railway budgets year after year the allocation for the North-Eastern region has been less than five per cent. They are showing off Katihar Division and Alipurduar Division with allocation of large amount to that area in order to paint a picture that the entire amount is being given to the whole of North-Eastern region. That is a blatant lie intended to hoodwink the people of the North-Eastern region.

I can cite an example to show as to how people in the North-Eastern region are being discriminated against. A little while ago hon. Member Shri Tapir Gao has mentioned the Rangia-Mukongchalak line. This is a line that goes up to the Chinese border. This runs along the north bank of river Brahmaputra and it serves Assam and Arunachal Pradesh. While the cost of guage conversion of this project is Rs.950 crore, the amount allocated this year is Rs.7 crore only.

The Bogibeel Bridge project was sanctioned in 1997. Foundation stone for this project was laid by the hon. Prime Minister. The total outlay for the project is Rs.1768 crore. This year the allocation is Rs.12 crore. If we roughly calculate, it would require more than 150 years to complete this project at the present rate of allocation. Railway Ministry should have taken greater initiative to finalise the sources of funding for this national project.

I would request the hon. Ministers of State for Railways who are sitting here now to take all measures so that these projects are declared as national projects and assured source of funding is provided. Otherwise it will be a mockery on the people of the North-East.

Assam is the gateway for the entire North-Eastern region. To ease traffic congestion in this region, guage conversion of the railway track from New Jalpaiguri to Guwahati is a must. I hope this will be considered by the hon. Railway Minister. The new Moinaguri-Jogighapa line, which was conceived a few years back, should be completed expeditiously.

As demanded by the other Members of the region, I also plead for creation of a separate railway zone for the North-Eastern region in order to cater to the needs of the people there. I want to appeal to the Ministry of Railway to ensure that 10 per cent of the budgetary allocation, including the Railway Safety Fund and Diesel Cess, is spent on the projects in the region in the true sense of the term. So far, only less than three per cent of Railway Safety Fund and Diesel Cess is allocated to the North-East.

Because of slow progress in track renewal from SRSF, we come across news of various kinds of accidents and other incidents.

Rangia Division was sanctioned five years back but is yet to be completed. I hope, adequate funds would be provided to complete this project on time. I also appeal to the Railway Minister to have equitable share in the allocation of model stations and introduction of new technologies. The criteria of economic rate of return are not feasible for the North Eastern Region. The entire North-Eastern Region should be looked from the social point of view. As such, this criteria should be abolished.

About the passenger reservation centers, I would like to emphasise that although State headquarters have been provided with passenger reservation center, it could not cater to the needs of inaccessible areas specially border areas. I would request that every district headquarters should be provided with passenger reservations centers because almost all the borders districts of the North Eastern region are inaccessible.

Regarding the railway recruitment policy, the people of North-East have been demanding that a separate policy for the Group `C”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””” & `D”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””” posts should be declared for the entire country so that every region has equitable share in employment. We have been demanding 100 per cent reservation for the local youth of every region in the Group `C”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””” and `D”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””” posts. But the Railway Ministry has kept the issue hanging without taking a final decision because of which we always face trouble. Only by issuing a specific notification of the reservation policy, the proportionate share of every region will be met.

The North-Eastern and North Frontier Railways should be kept under the priority list for track renewals, diesel cess, restoration of bridges, computer reservation centers, introduction of new technology, and allocation of rakes to backward areas in the North Eastern Region.

We demand that a separate computer brain head for Guwahati is set up. If Guwahati is given a separate brain head for computer reservation, it can have access to all the destinations of the country. Now, it is not possible because it is routed through Kolkata. Allocation of rakes to Lakhimpur and Harmoti Stations of NF Railways for carrying cement have been restricted or stopped. I would request the Ministry to make it functional.

Sir, I would like to make one or two points for the consideration of the Ministry. One is the five km. BG conversion of Dangori to Saikhowa line in the Tinsukia district of the NF Railways. Survey and feasibility report had been completed three years back but till today it has not yet been implemented. I would request that gauge conversion of at least this five km. line is added to the North-Eastern Region in this Budget.

Another demand is for the construction of Rail Over Bridge at Chaboti area of North Lakhimpur Town in the NF Railways. I hope the hon. Minister would order for the re-survey because the road is linked to hospitals and airport of the Lakhimpur district. With these words, I thank you once again for giving me the opportunity.

20.00 hrs.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR (BANGALORE SOUTH): Thank you very much. At the outset, I thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak on the Railway Budget.

I want to draw the attention of the hon. Railway Minister to this point, through you, Sir. Since the hon. Minister belongs to Tamil Nadu, last year, in the overall analysis, Tamil Nadu has got an amount of Rs.307 crore for new lines, doubling and gauge conversion, etc., and this year, it has got an amount of Rs.470 crore, the highest allocation for the State in the entire Budget, vis-à-vis what has been given to the State of Karnataka.

In the last 55 years, many new lines, gauge conversions, electrification projects, doubling of tracks, etc. had been announced for the State of Karnataka and the total amount spent on them is to the tune of Rs.4,500 crore; this year, we have been allotted a paltry amount of Rs.190.67 lakh.

20.11 hrs. (Shri Pawan Kumar Bansal in the Chair)

In that, for new railway lines, an amount of Rs.29.67 crore has been allotted; for doubling, Rs.97 crore has been allotted and for gauge conversion, Rs.64 crore has been allotted. Here, I want to put forth some suggestions, according to which, if some more funds are allotted, some projects could be completed within this year.

For example, Hassan-Bangalore is a very prestigious railway line; in 2006, we are going to have Mahamastakabhishekam for Shravanabelagola. Bangalore-Shravanabelagola line needs to be completed; it is of 166 kms. and an amount of Rs.412.91 crore is the total requirement. An amount of Rs.150 crore is spent so far. But to complete it up to Shravanabelagola, a few more crores of rupees are required. Last year, they allotted Rs.26 crore and this year, they allotted only Rs.20 lakh for this line.

When there is going to be Mahamastakabhishekam, national and international yatris are going to come; tourists are going to come; the entire Jain community is going to be there; not only the Jain community, but also people belonging to other communities are going to gather in crores. So, the hon. Minister has to take some special note of this line – Hassan-Bangalore via Shravanabelagola.

Secondly, there is Sholapur-Gadak line via Hutki, which is of 330 kms. Till now, an amount of Rs. 223.37 crore has been allotted, out of Rs.268.21 crore. Only Rs.45 crore is needed to be spent to complete the gauge conversion. Half of Karnataka – Bagalkote and Bijapur Districts – has become an island like Andaman and Nicobar. The Minister has provided Rs.15 crore in this Budget; he has to raise it to Rs.45 crore so that the entire North Karnataka is benefited – the traders, the entrepreneurs and the farmers of North Karnataka will be benefited by this.

There is one more suggestion. Hubli-Ankola line is a 100-year dream, of the engineer-statesman Shravan Vishveshwaraiah, of connecting West Coast with East Coast. You must be knowing that there is one huge naval project at a cost of Rs.10,000 crore. It is in Karvar, 30 kms. off Ankola. There are three important ports in Southern India – one is Chennai, another is Mangalore and the third is Karvar. These three ports need to be connected. The environment clearance for this has not been given. It is a project for Rs.997 crore. Last year, for land acquisition, an amount of Rs.15 crore has been provided; this year, only Rs.5 crore has been provided. Both the hon. Ministers are sitting here; I am very happy and I would request them that they should speak to the hon. Minister of Environment and Forest to get speedy clearance for that project.

There is one more important project in the State of Karnataka, that is Bidar-Gulbarga. This project was inaugurated and the land acquisition has also started. If the Minister could complete it, it would be quite helpful as the total run from Bangalore to Delhi would be reduced by nearly 500 Kms. Bangalore-Delhi is a very important link. Entire Hyderabad-Karnataka area or Northern Karnataka stretch will be linked. There is already a railway line up to Gulbarga. That small stretch of Bidar-Gulbarga, which has already been sanctioned, needs more allocation. I would like to add two more things before I conclude.

Bangalore is a very prestigious city and a fastest growing city. I represent Bangalore South. We have local rail network for Mumbai and Kolkata. When I was the Urban Development Minister, you know very well, I also did my bit to have the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation moving. For Bangalore Metro Rail, during my tenure, Rs.3.50 crore was given for a survey. A Detailed Project Report has been culled out. Shri Shreedharan, the DMRC Chief himself came and made the soil test. For Delhi Metro, there is a Special Purposes Vehicle of 50 per cent participation from the Government of India and 50 per cent from the Government of Delhi. I request the participation of Indian Railways in Bangalore Metro Project. It is 4,500 Kms project; North-south and East-west, with 88 railway stations. It will be carrying nearly 30 lakh passengers every day. Bangalore requires this ultra modern public transport system and both the Government of Karnataka, through the Government of India is also approaching the Japanese Bank of International Cooperation for funding. The Government of Karnataka has also culled out an amount of nearly Rs.700 crore in this year”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’’s Budget. I request that instead of it being a 50:50 project involving the Government of Karnataka and the Government of India, it may involve one-third participation from the Government of Karnataka, the Government of India and the Indian Railways. Bangalore being the fastest growing metropolis and the IT Headquarter, I request the Indian Railways to take special interest in this.

Finally, there has not been a single Rupee that has been allocated for electrification for the entire Karnataka State – neither for South-central Railway, Southern Railway and nor South-western Railway. This has to be looked into. We are a progressive State. If there is so much of electrification in Bihar, Uttar Pradesh or Mumbai, why not for Bangalore and why not for the entire State of Karnataka?

We need doubling also, especially from Mysore-Bangalore-Hubli-Belgaon-Pune-Mumbai. Now, the doubling of railway line is up to Meeraj. But from Meeraj to Bangalore and to Mysore, which is one of the trunk routes, there is no doubling or electrification. I, therefore, request that we may have doubling and electrification on this route so that the revenues will increase.

Once again I thank the hon. Chair for providing me this opportunity. Two senior colleagues in the Government are here. I hope when the hon. Railway Minister replies tomorrow, they will pursuade him. They will collectively decide that they will be participating in Bangalore Metro rail and will be giving the additional support for Bangalore-Hassan for the sake of Mahamastakabhishekha. They will also be completing this year Bangalore-Sholapur doubling, which is only 45 Kms. away. The Government will give us a gift in the shape of an increased railway allocation for Karnataka from Rs.190 crore to Ras.450 crore

MR. CHAIRMAN : Now, Shri Manjunath Kunnur to lay his speech.

SHRI MANJUNATH KUNNUR (DHARWAD SOUTH): Sir, before laying my speech, I would just want to say a few words.

MR. CHAIRMAN: I would not be able to allow you. Then you have to wait for that. I would call you a little later.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR (BANGALORE SOUTH): Sir, I would just request you that since you have called his name, kindly allow him to speak. This would be his maiden speech.

MR. CHAIRMAN: I am sorry I would not be able to do that. We will have to proceed from the other side. I would call him a little later.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Much as I would have liked to give more time to the hon. Members, but I would like to inform that there are still 40 more names with me. Even if I give 5 minutes to each speaker, then also it would take 200 minutes, that is more than 3 hours, to exhaust the list of speakers. Therefore, I would like to request the hon. Members to kindly make their submissions and points as briefly as possible. I will ring the first bell after four minutes and the final bell after five minutes.

*Speech was laid on the Table.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN (BALASORE): Mr. Minister, is it a fact that Sampark Kranti Express did not reach the destination? It is a very serious allegation that he is making.

SHRI DUSHYANT SINGH (JHALAWAR): *Sir, I rise to speak on the Indian Railway Budget 2005-06. I would like to thank you for the opportunity for allowing me to speak on the Railway Budget. Sir, the UPA Government has drawn ambitious plans for the Railways to meet increasing demand for the economy. Sir, the hon. Minister has mentioned in his Budget speech that they will work towards streamlining passengers services and also ensuring proper improvement in the quality of passengers services. But, Sir, this is an utopian idea carried out by the UPA Government, and it is only on paper and not in reality. Sir, the success of any economy is through its efficient railways system. Sir, at this point, I must mention that the Railways have not clarified vis-à-vis safety and security for its passengers. It is very important for us to mention that the Minister has announced Rs. 10 crore for safety to build bridges, tracks, signals and for inter-locking all the Railway tracks. Sir, I must, at this moment, say that the Minister for Railways is invisible. We are discussing a very important matter and I do not see either hon. Railway Minister, Shri Lalu Prasad Yadav nor any Members of the Railway Board. It is very sad to see such attendance by the leading Members of the Railways team.

For security, the hon. Minister of Railways had mentioned that I quote him: “Railway Protection Force (RPF) posts, which were recruited by the Railway Recruitment Board, have been discontinued, and previous practice of filling up the vacancies directly by the field units should be restored”. I urge the hon. Railway Minister, as he is so dear and near to the Aam Admi, and also the UPA Government in their Common Minimum Programme, to carry out the recruitment process and employ the workforce for the RPF from the districts of the location to the posts.

*Speech was laid on the Table.

Sir, the Aam Admi have always complained to Railway Officials that they are unable to connect to the Railway Information Line. It is due to awful telecommunication facilities provided since the UPA Government took control, especially in Jhalawar. I thank the Railway Minister for expanding this line to the village level. But at this point, I must also put it in black and white that the hon. Railway Minister, Shri Lalu Prasad Yadavji has given the preferential treatment to his State of Bihar by providing a Call Center at Patna. He should be more open and have a center outside the State also to expand a reach to the village level. We need to establish telephony network to the village level. We need to initiate education awareness campaign by which local artisans, marginal farmers and Aam Admi, as mentioned by the UPA, can take full opportunity of the services provided by the Railway Ministry, such as Internet Booking, and make full use fo the Call Center. I hope, this is not a Call Center only on paper, and what the hon. Railway Minister has mentioned in his Budget, does come into action and assist the people of India, and not the one region only. Sir, I must mention at this stage that the Indian Railways are not only the largest Railway network in the world, but also a biggest public sector undertaking, and we need to think of modernising our Railway.

“Sir hungama khara karna mera maksad nahin, Meri Koshish hai ke ye surat badalni chahiye”.

Our hon. Railway Minister mentioned a quote, which follows in his Railway Budget Speech :

I am disillusioned and disappointed by hon. Railway Minister and his officials for not being present at the debate on Railways Budget. How can you make a system better without learning, listening and creating awareness of local problems of individual Members from the respective States? So, I urge the Railway Minister that he should have been here. This is the same unfortunate situation that arose in Punjab when a train accident took place in Hoshiarpur District. And instead of attending Parliament and informing the Members of

Parliament, the Railway Minister had travelled to Bihar to take care of the local issues in Bihar without bothering about the Aam Admi who was in misery in Punjab. He was more bothered about the release of the Banerjee Report. It was just to garner votes, and use religion to do so. The modernisation plan undertaken by the UPA Government is only for the so-called metropolitan cities of New Delhi, Chennai and Kolkata. What does happen to the common man’s problem? Why should we not also modernise Railway segments to cater to rural India? At this moment, I must thank the initiative of our hon. Minister for giving the opportunity to unemployed youths to travel in second class if they are going to appear for any Government jobs. It is also proposed by the hon. Railway Minister to help the farmers, the agriculturists and the artisans by giving them concession of 50 per cent in lieu of training. I hope at this stage, he is not using his political mind to garner for the next national political election. I must commend the hon. Railway Minister for giving to rural students, especially girl child, for travelling from rural areas to attend National level entrance level examinations for medical, engineering and other courses. AT this stage, the hon. Railway Minister has mentioned that patients, who die while undergoing treatment in major Government hospitals, be carried on priority basis to the nearest Rail head connection to the home town at 50 per cent concession on normal tariff. I urge him to be more sympathetic, concerned and show empathy for the bereaved family, aid the rural poor by giving him 100 per cent concession in tariff.

Sir, now I must shift your attention to my State of Rajasthan, and my constituency of Jhalawar. I must mention that the hon. Railway Minister was not generous to the State of Rajasthan. By this Railway Budget, we can see how the UPA feel about the States who have voted the NDA lead Governments in the respective States such as Rajasthan. In the previous Budget, Ramganj Mandi – to Bhopal line, which is a new train line, had a budget of Rs. 27 crore for the year 2004-05, but its total cost amounts to Rs.7,000 crore plus. This year, the Budget allocation for the same line is Rs. 15 crore. I must say that at this stage, Ramganj

– Mandi is one of the Asia’s largest Agriculture Mandi which has been provided to people, for the traders and marginal agricultural farmers. With this new Budget 2005-06, the provisions provided by the previous Budget have been reduced. Sir, the cost of Ramganj Mandi – Bhopal line is aproximately Rs.7,000 crore, and you have provided a small amount of Rs. 15 crore this year. This shows a balance of about Rs. 6,080 crore which is yet to be disbursed by the Central Government in order to have this train line between Bhopal, Jhalawar and Ramganj Mandi. Sir, I had requested the hon. Railway Minister, through numerous letters, that the common man, the Aam Admi, needs a shuttle from Nagda in Madhya Pradesh to Kota in Rajasthan with stoppages at Chomela, Bhawani Mandi to Kota. This is a train by which a local middle class person could travel to and fro from his work place. Still no announcement has been made for this memo train from Nagda to Kota. I urge you to assist us – Members of NDA – and be generous to us by giving us this facility. I must also mention that during daytime, local people of the Jhalawar constituency need to travel for short distances. During daytime, the sleeper coaches are not provided. I urge the hon. Railway Minister to provide the people with an opportunity to have reservations for sleeper coaches for the short day journeys, and trains should have more bogies for the common man. We need extra reservation facility at Bhawani Mandi, Choumela and Salpura. As the reservation facilities are limited, we need more counters for booking facilities. Sir, in your Budget Speech, you have clearly mentioned that you will be assisting the local people with facilities like rest room and better catering. I urge you to provide these facilities at Bhawani Mandi, Choumela and Salpura.

Sir, I must mention that in your Railway Budget, 2005-06, there is no mention for electrification of new lines. I urge you to provide the people of Hadoti with better Railway electrification facility between section of Kota BARAN – Guna – Bina. Along with it, the Jaipur – Swai Madhavpur sector also needs to be electrified. A glance at your Railway Budget provides no assistance to our State, which is the largest State in India. All the trains that your have provided us are

either after gauge conversions or memo trains. We feel that you have acted without any thought for providing the people of Rajasthan with proper new train facilities. Rather you were occupied in Bihar election. I urge you to look at for providing us with new train facility, and also change memo train into passenger trains and passengers trains into express trains. You have overlooked the Hadoti region. You have only provided trains to areas where there is an elected partner of UPA Government. We can see this in your generosity where you have provided Guna Shivpuri Gwalior Train – Budget of Rs. 25 crore is sanctioned. The train lines which you have sanctioned, such as Dausa via Alwar to Mathura are primarily to assist your UPA partners because Indian National Congress Members have been elected from these three respective constituencies. While you have overlooked our Jhalawar Parliamentary constituency. I, once again, urge you to be sympathetic towards our people, and give us some train stoppages of trains, such as, at Bullets Jaipur, Indore Express at Bhawani Mandi, and Choumela – Dhanbad Express (3349) and Parshawanath Express (3350) at Bhawani Mandi and Choumela.

For the State of Rajasthan and for the District of Dholpur and Swain Madhavpur, I urge you to link after gauge conversion Dholpur, Sarmuthra to Gangapur City. You colleague in UPA-lead alliance, representing Swain Madhavpur, hon. Shri Namonarayan Meena, who is Minister in your coalition Government, has also urged to do so. We need to increase the frequency of trains passing through our State. We urge to make the Jodhpur Guwahati Express – which runs once in a week – thrice a week. Jaipur Bangalore Express, which runs twice a week, I would request you to make it trice a week with a stoppage at Bhawani Mandi and Choumela.

To end, I would like to quote your favourite quotation:

“Sirf hungama khara karna mera maksad nahin, Meri koshish hai ki ye surat badalni chahiye.”

Sir, you are running a lot more trains than you can provide for in your Budget. Hon. Minister has only put his view on paper, which is not at all practical. He has only provided for areas of its alliance partners. Therefore, I urge him to indulge in too much of talking and let us work for people who have elected us without any prejudice and any malaise. Let us actually help the common without any caste, religion faith and any political compulsions. I hope, he will be more sympathetic and generous to us in future.

Thanking you for giving an opportunity to speak.

DR. COL. (RETD.) DHANI RAM SHANDIL (SHIMLA): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to speak in support of the Railway Budget presented by Shri Lalu Prasad, our hon. Railway Minister on 26th February, 2005. In a country of our size and the rising needs of the population, I think, it is a very good job done by the Railway Minister. Let us appreciate the good work done by him. He has kept in mind the needs of all sections of our society. The Railways’ task is a stupendous one. I think, with 1,07,000 track kilometres, carrying more than 11 million passengers a day, transporting 40 per cent of the freight of our nation is not a small or mean job. Under these circumstances, making a balanced Budget is a big challenge. I would always appreciate those hon. Members who have tried to appreciate the good work done by the Railways.

I think, under the responsive and dynamic approach of the UPA Chairperson, Shrimati Sonia Gandhi and under the able leadership of Dr. Manmohan Singh, this is the second time in succession that in the Railway Budget there has been no increase in the rail fare. Once again I should say that Shri Lalu Prasad deserves all the credit for that. The hon. Minister has also introduced a lot of welfare measures. He has introduced down-to-earth, popular and people-friendly concessions for weaker sections of the society, like Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes, OBCs and minorities. As far as the rural India is concerned, he has given a lot of concessions to the aspiring village students and unemployed youth. Keeping all this in mind, this is a welcome Budget.

You had also very rightly briefed as also all other hon. Members that there has been little attention towards Himachal Pradesh in this respect. We have been neglected. The only railway which was inaugurated in the year 1903 under Lord Curzon is still a testimony there. We find that has now been a heritage railway. But let us improve it, let us conserve it and bring it at a world-class ambience.

I am grateful to the hon. Railway Minister that he gave the Chandigarh-Baddi railway line. He announced the upgradation of Pathankot-Joginder Nagar railway line. Last year, he had also approved a line from Chandigarh-Kalka-Parwanoo railway through Baddi, Arki and Darlagha area where we have Asia’s the biggest cement plant. That is an important rail section. If it comes through, we would be able to save the environment and also we would be able to give development to that area. There would be industrialisation, tourism in that sector. I am sure that this Northern hub, this Northern corridor, that is, between Paonta Sahib, Amb Trilokpur, Nahan, Parwanoo, Baddi, Barotiwala, Nalagarh and Una is an important corridor and requires railway development at faster phase. The hon. Ministers of Railway are here. I would request them to give special attention to it. I think, it will be a future Birmingham of Northern India if we give special impetus to that.

There are investors keen on coming to this area. But they see where the infrastructure is. Infrastructure should be there. The most important organ is the railway. If it comes up, I think, there will be faster phase of development. We will be getting rid of the unemployment problem which is the one problem that the State is acutely facing now.

Sir, I just like to add only two things. The first is that we should have a focus from Dehradun side along Tons River, Pabbar Valley, Rohru Valley going to Sangla or from Bilaspur-Joginder Nagar which is the existing rail line going towards Satluj Valley, and on the lines of Jammu and Kashmir. We should develop the railways in that area so that that completes the loop, strategic region. It is also the border region. It would take the shape of, I should say, a world-class railway. We see a future in that area where we develop industrialisation, where we see hydel generation coming up in a big way and where we see horticulture mission taking 21st century approach in a very big way, where we see an apple economy also going forward. For all these, if we develop the railway, if we give special impetus to the railway, I am sure, as I said earlier, it will be a future Birmingham of Northern India.

With these words, I once again like to commend and appreciate this Budget. It is a wonderful Budget. In spite of all the difficulties, a very big challenge, I should say, in front of the Railway Minister, which was there, he gave a very viable solution to it. We should all appreciate it.

I thank you so much for giving me this chance.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI BIJOY HANDIQUE): Sir, I have pleasure to announce that dinner is ready. All the hon. Members, including you, Sir, members of the Press and members of the staff are welcome.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Thank you.

Now, Shri P.C. Thomas to speak – he is absent.

Shri Francis George – he is absent.

Shri Vijay Kumar Khandelwal

21.00 hrs.

(Mr. Deputy Speaker in the Chair)

SHRI P.S. GADHAVI (KUTCH): *Sir, I would like to express my views on Railway Budget as under:

In this year’s Railway Budget, hon. Railway Minister has neglected or failed to consider the demands of Gujarat State so far as the developments of Railway facilities are concerned. I have submitted the following demands for my constituency which are not considered by hon. Railway Minister.

Frequency of Ala-Hazrat express from Bhuj to Barielly may be increased from four days in a week to Daily as it is the long-standing demand of Army personnel and people from North India and Bihar who are staying in my constituency.

Upgradation of Bhuj Railway Station and declaration of Gandhidham Railway Station as a Model Station.

Expedition of Gauge conversion construction work between Samkhiyali and Palanpur, which is a very important and prestigious project of Indian Railway.

As there is no direct train from Kutch to Andhra Pradesh and Orissa as thousands of labourers settled there since many years in my constituency, and for that long-standing demand of direct train from (A) Bhuj to Hyderabad and (B) Bhuj to Bhuvaneshwar via Andhra Pradesh.

Extension of following trains be declared :-

Navjivan Express Train Nos. 2655/2656 from Ahmedabad to Bhuj.

Ahmedabad – Howrah Express Train Nos. 8033/8034.

Ahmedabad Jammu Tawi – Sarvodaya Train Nos. 2473/2474 from Ahmedabad to Bhuj.

Bhuj-Naliya-Meter Gauge train service requires to be restarted as this train was very much useful to Army personnel.

Gauge conversion of Bhuj-Naliya Railway track.

*Speech was laid on the Table.

Moreover, there is a very long-standing demand of the third Railway track between Mumbai to Ahmedabad which is also not considered. The goods traffic as well as passenger traffic over this route is increasing day by day. If this project is sanctioned, then the Railway is definitely going to be benefited.

I am sorry to state that though the hon. Railway Minister claims to be the protector of the poor man’s interest but under his leadership, Western Railway authorities are crushing the interest of the poor in my constituency. In my constituency, i.e., Kutch, one small area known as Cargo Jjopadpatti in Gandhidham where more than 1500 hutments are there in which more than 15,000 poor labourers are staying since the last more than 25 years. Many of them are in below poverty line (BPL) goup.

Recently, for the best reasons known to the Western Railway authorities, these hutment dwellers are threatened to be evicted forcefully and land in question is to be given to some private moneyed parties. These slum dwellers are having with them (a) Ration Cards, (b) names in Electoral Rolls, (c) Water and Electricity Connection, etc.

I would like to urge the hon. Railway Minister to kindly intervene in the matter and see that these hutment dwellers may not be evicted forcefully and without following proper procedure of law by the Western Railway Authorities. If, at all, these slum dwellers are to be evicted, then in that case, they must be adequately allowed to be given land for relocation and due compensation for the rehabilitation.

In my speech in the last year’s Railway Budget, I had also invited the attention of hon. Railway Minister that in my constituency at Bhuj, Western Railway is having land worth more than Rs.100 crore which is lying vacant, unoccupied and completely in neglected position. Many land grabbers have encroached upon this land and still encroachment activities by land grabbers is going on. The value of this land is estimated, at the present market price, of about Rs.100 crore.

Thus, at one hand, Western Railway does not care to have proper protection of their vacant and unoccupied land and, on the other, Western Railway authorities are trying to evict poor labourers who have settled there since the last more than 25 years.

I urge the Railway Minister to please consider the demand for Railway facilities of Gujarat and try to protect the poor labourers who have settled in Cargo Jjopadpatti since the last more than 25 years.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Shri Chhewang Thupstan to speak now – not present. Shrimati Sangeeta Kumari Singh Deo to speak now.

SHRIMATI SANGEETA KUMARI SINGH DEO (BOLANGIR): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I would like to thank you for giving me this opportunity to participate in the discussion on the Railway Budget for the year 2005-2006. At the very outset, I would like to say that the Railway Budget for this financial year is a consumer-friendly Budget, and in all fairness, efforts have been made to accommodate the weaker sections of society and to bring about overall development, which is quite apparent in the following like no increase in passenger fares, no across-the-board increase in freight rates, 46 new trains have been introduced and frequency of ten trains has been increased etc., also, various concessions have been granted to rural school students and to girls from rural areas, which is a very welcome thing in the Budget, however, important areas have not been taken up properly.

Railways assume great importance in the development of the country’s economy and care must always be taken to ensure that the development is all-round so that it does not lead to regional imbalances. While observing in detail, it becomes quite clear that several areas of the country have been neglected. It is unfortunate that though an Assembly Committee led by the hon. Speaker of the Orissa Assembly had visited Delhi last October and met the hon. Prime Minister as well as submitted a memorandum to the hon. Minister of Railways demanding an allocation of Rs. 700 crore for the State, unfortunately, Orissa has been terribly neglected.

I represent an extremely backward area namely Bolangir which is in my parliamentary constituency. It also is one of the KBK districts which is perennially drought-prone. Some of the points which require immediate attention of the hon. Minister of Railways in my constituency and which I would request should be taken up on priority are – computerised passenger reservation system in one of the stations in Khariar Road which is in Nuapada district. Then, I would request that the station should be re-modelled.

I would request that certain important express trains should be made to halt there. Otherwise, there is no point of having a railway station there. Doubling of the Titlagarh-Sambalpur section should also be carried out. A survey has already been done for it.

I would also request you to introduce new trains in western Orissa. The Sampark Kranti Express, which is to be launched soon from Bhubaneshwar, should be diverted from Raipur so that it passes through Sambalpur and Bolangir. This would be a very important step in linking western Orissa — which is relatively backward — with the coastal regions. Western Orissa is very rich in mining activities. This would serve the dual purpose of increasing the business interests as well as the industrial interests in our backward areas.

I would request the hon. Minister to increase the frequency of the Bhubaneshwar-Kurla Express from once a week to thrice a week. I would also request him to increase the frequency of Puri-Ahmedabad Express via Bolangir from once a week to thrice a week. I would further request to sanction a new railway line from Bolangir-Nuapada via Padampur. The survey for this railway line has also been sanctioned. I would be extremely grateful if something could be done about it in the near future. Also, the massive railway tark, in Kantabangi should be cleaned up.

I would request the hon. Minister to sanction funds for Khurda Road-Bolangir railway line. This has been in the pipeline for the last more than 20 years. I have myself got fed up of sounding repetitive in this House, and asking for it year after year. I would sincerely request the hon. Minister to consider it. He has made a budgetary allocation of Rs. 10 crore, and my humble request to him would be to increase it to at least Rs. 50 crore. I would also like to state that the construction work should be immediately started from both ends as the land acquisition has been completed.

I think, I should touch upon certain demands of the State, besides the immediate needs of my parliamentary constituency, namely, the doubling and electrification work. It should start on the railway line between Talcher and Sambalpur, so that more number of express trains — from Mumbai to Delhi and other places — can run from Bhubaneshwar via Sambalpur.

Special priority should be given for completion of the Daitari-Bansapani railway line as a large number of Steel Plants, Sponge Iron Plants, and Charge-chrome Plants are coming up in this area. Sin it is ironical that even though Orissa is one of the richest States with regard to mineral ore and gemstones, yet due to lack of infrastructure we are lagging behind. If these railway lines are hurriedly setup, at least, it would give some sort of encouragement to the industry, and trade.

I would suggest that funds should be provided for construction to start work on the Haridaspur-Paradeep railway line, which connects the steel township of Kalinga Nagar to Paradeep Port. Also, the construction work should start immediately on the Lanjigarh-Junagarh railway line up to Bhawanipatna, which is in my neighbouring district Kalahandi.

Sir, I would request you to give me a couple of minutes more to speak.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Madam, you can lay the rest of your speech on the Table of the House.

SHRIMATI SANGEETA KUMARI SINGH DEO : Sir, I would take only two more minutes to conclude my speech. Everybody else has taken a lot more time than I have taken while speaking. … (Interruptions)

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR (BANGALORE SOUTH): Sir, we are all supporting her to continue her speech.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Okay Mrs. Deo, kindly continue with your speech.

SHRIMATI SANGEETA KUMARI SINGH DEO : Sir, I would like to demand a few more new trains. A new express train may be introduced between Puri and Jeypore in Koraput district via Sambalpur-Bolangir-Raipur. A super-fast express train may be introduced to run between Sambalpur and Allahabad. A new express train may be introduced from Titlagarh to Puri via Sambalpur. An Inter-city express train may be introduced between Koraput and Rourkela via Rayagada. Another express train may be introduced from Vishakhapatnam to Howrah via Titlagarh, Raipur and Bilaspur. Rajdhani Express from Bhubaneswar presently runs for four days a week. For the remaining three days another Rajthani should be introduced from Bhubneswar to New Delhi via Sambalpur. Romwla, Ranchi and Gomo. Vishkapatnam-Nigammuddin Express which runs for three days a week should run daily. The Express train which runs from Sambalpur to Raipur may be extended upto Bhubneswar.

I would like to conclude by saying that we all know that the belt of Bengal, Bihar, and Orissa is terribly deprived, and is backward. We have great hopes of seeing some improvements in this area, after seeing that the hon. Minister also hails from one of those backward States.

Though the budgetary allocation has been more than previous year’s, in fact, it has been the highest till today, however, we are a little disappointed and we feel deprived of our genuine share. My humble request to the hon. Minister is that since Orissa is a backward State and is prone to natural calamities — you all must be knowing about the super-cyclone; floods and droughts are a common occurrence there — therefore, we are looking forward to his full support and a lot of benevolence from his side.

SHRI ABDULLAKUTTY (CANNANORE): *Sir, I welcome the Railway Budget 2005 presented by the hon. Railway Minister, Shri Lalu Prasadji at it gives much relief to common citizen by not increasing the passenger fares.

But, there are many areas where he could have tapped additional resources like abolition of uneconomical and unviable lines, commercial exploitation of surplus railway land and a nominal increase in freight tariff. Without raising additional resources, it will be difficult to undertake basic expansion and passenger amenities including improved sanitation and upkeep of the railway premises.

I would like to confine myself to the long-standing demands of railway users in North Malabar region. The Minister has announced introduction of 46 new trains and extension of the existing ones but none of these serve the people in North Malabar area.

Because of increasing passenger traffic orginating from this region, I suggest the following :

6604 Trivandrum – Mangalore Maveli Express, presently bi-weekly, should be made daily.

Kannur – Yeshwantpur Express, presently bi-weekly, should be made daily.

The newly-introduced Madgaon – Mangalore Jan Shatabdi Express should be extended to Calicut as a lot of tourism traffic along the West Coast bound for Goa and beyond will ensure better traffic revenue.

There should be more quota berth allotment from Kannur for all north-bound trains like Mangala Express and Trivandrum New Delhi Rajdhani Express. Further, all rakes deployed in these regions are old and unserviceable. New rakes should be pressed into service.

*Speech was laid on the Table.

There has not been much allocation for doubling projects in Kerala with a meagre Rs.53.00 crore which should be revised upward by at least Rs.250.00 crore. Likewise, no substantial allocation has been made to convert level crossing into Railway Overbridges/Underbridges. This allocation should be increased and share of Central Road Fund meant for building ROBs and RUBs should be utilized for the following works of top priority :

A long-standing demand of the local people is a Railway Overbridge/Underbridge at Kannapuram Railway Station at IRINAVU with an estimated cost of Rs.72.00 lakh. The Railways should come forward to initiate work on this project of utmost utility and safety by setting apart Rs.22.00 lakh for this project and the balance amount of Rs.50.00 lakh. I am willing to contribute from my MPLAD funds. Railways should immediately respond to my offer and initiate work on this project in the current financial year.

Likewise, there are two other level crossings with dense traffic that need to be converted into Railway Overbridge or Underbridge :

On NH-17 intersecting rail lines between Edakkad and Kannur and Chovva–Kannur South.

Railway line intersecting State Highway at Pappinisseri.

Railway line intersecting State Highway at Pazhayangadi.

Kannur is an important station in the entire North Malabar area but the present facilities are far from adequate to cater to increasing passenger traffic originating from Kannur. Kannur being the biggest handloom production and marketing centre in Kerala, a lot of businessmen and traders travel in and out of Kannur. The station premises should be expanded and passenger amenities like retiring rooms, waiting rooms including cloak room and free parking facilities in the station premises.

For mobilisation of additional resources, railways has been experimenting with the commercial exploitation of its surplus land. For instance, a vast expanse of railway land near Kannur station is lying idle which could be developed into a commercial shopping plaza. Apart from beautification of the area surrounding the station, this will generate additional revenue as also improved amenities for the rail travellers.

Increasing share of private participation in railways like catering services and goods clearing, etc., will cause much concern for the labour force comprising of more than 7 lakh railway porters and around 6 lakh workers engaged in catering services. With the increase in deployment of wheeled luggage trolleys, the average income of porter has come down. The Railway Minister claims himself to be the champion of the poor and he should also do something for these poor and underpaid category of porters and catering workers. It should also be ensured that the livelihood of these workers is not compromised in pursuit of privatization of railway services.

I sincerely hope that the above suggestions will be taken note of by the Government while finalizing the railway budget in the larger interest of the common man.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Bwiswmuthiary.

SHRI SANSUMA KHUNGGUR BWISWMUTHIARY (KOKRAJHAR): Sir, if you are going to give not more than two minutes, I would prefer to lay my speech.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You are welcome to do so.

SHRI SANSUMA KHUNGGUR BWISWMUTHIARY (KOKRAJHAR): Sir, with your permission, I lay my speech on the Table.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Vijoy Krishna. – Not present.

Shri Ramdas Athawale – Not present.

SHRI SANSUMA KHUNGGUR BWISWMUTHIARY (KOKRAJHAR): *Sir, with due respect, through you, I submit my speech on the Railway Budget for 2005-2006, on the table of the House, and request you to take appropriate steps in order to help and keep the same on record.

Sir, I am extremely sorry to inform the House, through you, that I am not at all happy and satisfied with the Railway Budget for 2005-2006, particularly with regard to the discriminatory policy approach adopted in relation to North Eastern Region while allocating funds for the region in question. Now, I would like to submit some of my long-pending genuine demands connected with the inadequate railway-service facilities and connectivity in our Bodoland Territory in particular and also in the entire North Eastern Region for favour of kind information of the Railway Minister and necessary follow-up actions thereon.

Line conversion:

The existing M.G. line between Murkhongselek (Arunachal Pradesh) and Rangia Railway Junction should be converted into B.G. with double line provision and after gauge conversion, a new train by the name ‘Bodoland-Arunachal Super-fast Express Train’ from Murkhongselek to New Delhi should be introduced with immediate effect.

The existing M.G. line between Dhubri and Fakiragram Railway Jn. also should be converted into B.G. with double line provision, and regular train service should be provided to the people of the concerned neglected region in question through this railway route at the earliest possible time.

New Railway Lines : Some new Railway lines should be sanctioned for the following important sectors :-

*Speech was laid on the Table.

From Fakiragram Railway Junction to Jamduar in Kokrajhar District within land Bodo territory should, and trains in line with the Toy Trains being run on N.J.P- Darjeeling sector, should be run on the aforesaid proposed new sector at the earliest possible;

From Salakati to Galegphu (Bhutan);

From Borpeta Road to ‘Manas Wild Life Sanctuary – World Heritage Site’; and

From Rangia Railway Jn. to Sandrup Junkha (Bhutan).

New Trains :-

A new train like the Satabadi Express train should be introduced from N.J.P. to Guwahati, w.i.e. ;

The proposed new train – ‘Guwahati – New Bongaigaon (daily)’ – should be extended upto Gossaigaon Hut in Bodoland territory;

A new superfast train by the name ‘Bodoland – Arunachal Express Train’ from Murkhong selek(Arunachal Pradesh) to New Delhi, should be introduced with immediate effect.

Improvement of services and standards of the following trains:

Sifung Train being run from Fakiragram to Guwahati, should be allowed to run up to Gossaigaon Hut Railway Station in the West;

Regular services should be provided to the people of Dhubri District by way of rea running trains on Dhubri-Guwahati railway line.

Model Railway Stations:

The proposal on Kokrajhar Railway Station for ‘model station’ should immediately be implemented;

Borpeta Road Railway Station

Overbridges:

Overbridges should immediately be sanctioned and constructed at the following places/locations:-

Kokrajhar town, 2. Shri Rampur, 3. Gossaingaon Hut, 4. Fakiragram Rly. Jn., 5.Chautara, 6. Salakati, 7. Basugaon, 8. Dangtal, 9. Saprakata [over NH 31(c)], 10. Bijni Town, 11. Patiladoha, 12. Sarbhog, 13. Barpeta Road, 14. Sarupeta, 15. Pathsala, 16. Rangia over NH-31, 17. Sangsari over NH-31, 18. Rangia over Rangia-Sandrup MG line, Jungkha Raod, 19. Goreswar, 20. Udalguri, 21. Majbat, 22. Choprakatha over NH-31, etc.

Stoppage of Trains:

All south-west bound trains, including the following specific trains, should be allowed to have halt at the following railway stations:

Dadar, Trivendrum, Bangalore, Saraighat Exp., Lohit Express, Jodhpur Express, Purbottar, Jankranti Express Sampark, etc. at Kokrajhar;

Kamrup Express and N.E. Express trains at Gossaigaon Hut.

Kamrup Express and N.E. Express trains at Bijni;

NE Express, Lohit Express, Saraighat Express, Puri Express, Jodhpur/Bikaner Express at Borpeta Road.

Rangia Railway Station division’s western boundary limit should be extended upto Shri Rampur Railway Station.

New Proposals:

A separate Railway Corporation in line with the Konkan Railway Corporation should be set up for N.E. Region.

A separate Railway Zone for the North-Eastern Region should be set up independently.

100% job reservation in the Railway Department under ””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””C & D”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””” category services should be provided to the youth of the N.E. Region.

Proposed plants: Coach-manufacturing plant should be set up at the northern site after NBQ.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Shri Vijay Krishna – Not Present

Shri Ramdas Athawale – Not Present.

*This part of the Speech was laid on the Table.

SHRI A. SAI PRATHAP (RAJAMPET):Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I rise to support and welcome the Railway Budget for the year 2005-05 presented by the hon. Railway Minister, Shri Lalu Prasad-ji. This is the dream Budget of the UPA Governemnt satisfying all sections of the rail users. I call it a passenger-friendly Budget carrying out various reforms.

Sir, the hon. Minister has taken a decision to spend Rs. 25,000 crore on modernisation and Rs. 3,500 crore on the railway safety in five years time.

Railways employ about 15 lakh people of which 40 per cent are unskilled. More than 100 passenger trains are running on uneconomical routes. What I suggest for the unskilled labour is that schemes like ‘Golden Handshake’ and VRS should be introduced and encouraged. Corruption, pilferage and other malpractices should be curbed with iron hands.

In regard to allotment of stalls, monopoly should go away and there is a request to the hon. Minister to introduce fresh policies and guidelines for unemployed graduates, particularly Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes, OBCs, women and handicapped persons. A Committee should be formed with NGOs and MPs in this regard so that they can consider and sanction to the required people, honestely.

In regard to wastelands, I suggest to the hon. Minister to get the reports from the Zonal Railways with blueprints. They should consult other Departments before dispatching the lands. Health and environment aspects should also be taken into consideration while disposing of the valuable railway lands and properties.

In regard to my State and Parliamentary Constituency, I wish to state that Andhra Pradesh is the least covered vis-à-vis other States regarding sanction of projects. Andhra Pradesh proposed ROB & RUB 25 projects for inclusion, but only four have been considered. The total cost comes to Rs.260 only. In this country, the on-going projects during 2004-05 amount to 292 and the required amount is Rs.46,000 crore. Andhra Pradesh has recommended only 25 projects, ROB & RUB in AP out of which four have been considered; the on-going new line projects require only Rs.260 crore, whereas only Rs.46 crore has been sanctioned. That comes to 18 per cent.

In regard to passenger amenities and modernisation of important railway stations, an amount of Rs.27.9 crore has been allotted last year, and this year, the South Central Railway has sought Rs.35 crore, but an amount of Rs.13.32 crore has been sanctioned.

Another point is that five new line projects have been considered by the Andhra Pradesh Government for sanction, out of which only one was referred to the Planning Commission. The other projects are also financially viable with rate of returns of more than 14 per cent.

I want to bring to the notice of the hon. Minister that the survey for Cuddapah-Bangalore new railway line has been conducted and the feasibility report has given returns of more than 17 per cent. It is the most backward area and this will cover backward regions. It will be useful and mineral-based industrialists, mine-owners, farmers and all sections of the people will benefit from this. Once again, I would request the hon. Minister to consider this line for inclusion at least in the next Budget speech.

In regard to gauge conversion, though Dharmavaram-Pakala line is considered in 1997-98, the allotment is almost nil in this Budget. I would request the hon. Minister to allot Rs.30 crore to start this work and complete the gauge conversion of this line in another 2 or 4 years.

Nandyal-Yerraguntla line was sanctioned in the year 1996-97; the total cost of this project is Rs.167 crore. I would request the hon. Minister to sanction at least Rs.25 crore during this year.

Finally, I wish to draw the kind attention of the hon. Minister that out of the seven Divisions in South Central Railway, Guntakkal stands third in earnings. With completion of doubling and electrification works between Guntakkal and Renigunta, this would come to second place. I sincerely request the hon. Minister to advise the authorities to complete the doubling work on a war footing.

In regard to the new train, Tirupati-New Delhi, stoppage is required at Rajampet, my Parliamentary Constituency; with this, again the industrial areas of Yerraguntla and Tadipatri will be give stoopage.

I would request the hon. Minister to consider that these halts are given to the Parliamentary Headquarters, Rajampeth. Another point is that people are asking for a new train from Tirupati to Shiridi. For the last few years, I have been requesting the hon. Ministers to introduce this train. In this regard, I represented personally to both the hon. Ministers. I would once again request the hon. Minister to consider this. Finally, there is no computer reservation centre at the Parliamentary Headquarters, Rajampeth. I would once again request the hon. Minister to provide a reservation centre.

SHRI MOHAN JENA (JAJPUR): *Sir, I want to draw the attention of the Central Government, through you, towards the problems of my State Orissa so far as the Railways are concerned. At the outset, I would like to thank the hon. Railway Minister, Shri Laloojee, for not increasing the railway fares and giving some innovative concessions to weaker sections of the society.

Sir, Orissa is one of the least developed States of India, due to the continuous apathetic attitude of the Central Government. Ninety per cent of the Orrisa’s population belongs to the Dalit, Tribes and the backward classes. Since Independence, Orissa has not progressed satisfactorily as far as Railways are concerned. Railway lines are the lifeline of the nation. Development in Railway is the indicator of progress. If the railway network is good, then that State is progressive one. I want to speak about the national average of railway lines. Sir, the national average is 19.11 kms. Per 1000 square kms. If we go to State average in West Bengal, it is 43.01 kms. and in Bihar, it is 30.04 kms. But, in Orissa, it is only 15.03 kms per 1000 square kms.

Sir, for the ongoing railway projects in Orissa, we need a fund allocation of Rs. 5000 crore. But the recent Budget allocation is very discouraging.

There are 30 districts in Orissa, among which 7 districts are untouched by the Railways, they are Baudha, Kandhamal, Nayagarh, Deogarh, Kendrapara, Malkangiri and Nawrangpur. So, I want to draw the attention of the Ministry of Railways to take steps to make these districts well connected to Railways. Orissa is giving Rs. 4000 crore of revenue to the Indian Railways but it is not giving proper attention to my State.

*Speech was laid on the Table.

Under this backdrop, I want to draw the attention of the Government to the following problems/demands:

Nizamuddin-Bhubaneswar Hirakud Express, which is connecting the State Capital with the national Capital has not been renovated since long. It has 2nd Class AC coaches but induction of 3rd AC is also very necessary. A large number of people depend on this train as it is economical. So, instead of bi-weekly, it should be run daily.

Bhubaneswar-New Delhi Rajdhani Express is the most important train connection which provides greater scope to the business community and V.I.P. travellers for its short travel time and better facilities. But, as there is no stoppage in the Western Orissa, people of those areas are deprived of this facility.

Another Rajdhani Express through Anugul-Sambalpur to Delhi is very very essential for our State.

The Lokmanya Tilak Express, which is running between Bhubaneswar-Kurla (Mumbai) only once in a week should be made daily and its route is needed to be run through Anugul-Sambalpur-Titlagarh-Raipur.

Sambalpur-BBSR-Inter-city Express is a very important train which is connecting Western Orissa with the coastal Orissa. But, another inter-city express is necessary for a better connectivity of both the ends of our State.

Prui-Ahamedabad Express, via Sambalpur is running only once a week. But, in view of the importance of this train, this should be run thrice every week.

Prui-Patna Baidyanath Dham Express is running only once every week. As this train is conecting two important States like Orissa and Bihar, it should be made daily for the interest of the people.

One Shatabadi Express is connecting Rourkela and Howrah. But another Shatabadi Express is very necessary to connect BBSR-Howrah.

Berhampur is one of the important city and business centres of the State of Orissa. So, in view of its importance, a direct train should be run from New Delhi to Berhampur.

In the tourist map of India, our Orissa is a dazzling spot with its world renowned places like Konark, Puri and the ancient Buddhist monuments of Jajpur District. So, a train introduced to connect Goa and Orissa through Panjion to Bhubneswar will attract the foreign tourists.

It is a matter of regret that although the electrification work between BBSR-Palasa has been completed but EMU (Electro-Multiple Unit) Train has not been run as yet.

There is no direct train connection to Chennai from Bhubaneswar and the Howrah-Chennai Coromandal Express does not fulfil the need. So, a direct train from BBSR to Chennai is very essential.

The coach repairing factory of Mancheswar in Bhubaneswar should be converted into a coach manufacturing factory.

With the renovation of the Bhubaneswar Railway Station, the other important stations like Jajpur, Bhadrak, Balasore, Berhampur and Dhanmandal, etc. should be renovated on the same lines.

A large number of people depend on roadways for their travel from Khurda to Cuttak. So, inter-city EMU Train in every hour should be provided between these two cities.

A stoppage should be provided at Jajpur-Keonjhar road Station of the BBSR-New Delhi Rajdhani Express.

A new railway line with passenger train should be provide to connect Bhadrak to Aradi (Akhandalmali Dham) to Jajpur town (Biraja Khetra).

So, I hope my above mentioned demands will reach the Central Government through the Sir.

SHRI SARBANANDA SONOWAL (DIBRUGARH): Hon. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I have some submissions regarding the Railway Budget. I am very sorry to say that at the time of preparation of Railway Budget, the hon. Railway Minister might have forgotten that Assam and North-Eastern States are also the integral parts of the country. This has been the practice since 1952. So, I would request that Assam and North-Eastern States should be kept in mind while preparing the Railway Budget as well as General Budget.

I would like to highlight a point which is related to Assam Accord. In 2002, when the then Prime Minister, Shri Vajpayee visited Dibrugarh, in the presence of Chairman, Railway Board as also the then Railway Minister, Shri Nitish Kumar promised to the people of Assam that within six years’ time, a rail-cum-road bridge will be completed. But we have seen that only Rs.12 crore have been allocated this year for the Bogibeel bridge. If this is the attitude, then this bridge will take another 100 years to complete. That is why, our first demand is that this particular project should be treated as a national bridge. This has also found place in the Assam Accord which was signed by late Rajiv Gandhi. So, to honour the then Prime Minister’s national commitment, this particular bridge should be completed as early as possible.

I have a few more points to make. We also want that there should be a separate zone for North-Eastern region in the name of North-East Railway Zone. As you know, constitutionally we have been categorised as Special Category States. That is why, this particular zone should be separately put into the Railway Budget.

There should be a metro railway authority at Guwahati. As you know, there is a huge growth of population in Guwahati. It is also the gateway of the North-Eastern States. Therefore, this facility should be provided there. Up till now, there is no double track broad gauge railway line in the entire region. We have seen in the Budget that this provision has been made for the other parts of the country. This should also be given particularly for Assam and North-Eastern States. There should be a double track broad gauge line from Rangiya to Mokocheleng because there is no double track broad gauge railway line. This has been committed earlier but up till now this has not been done.

During British rule, the Assam Railway Trading Company had built first railway line at Dibrugarh in 1884. It is a Railway heritage centre. That is why, Dibrugarh should be declared as a Railway heritage centre.

There should be another bridge to connect particularly Arunachal Pradesh and Assam at Sadiya. Therefore, there should be a separate rail-cum-road over bridge at Sadiya. The construction of Ramgiya Rail Division should be done. It was also a promise on the part of the Government of India. Up till now, this construction work has not been completed. This is also my sincere submission that this should also be included in the Railway Budget. In the entire region no rail over bridge has been constructed and because of this problem a lot of accidents occur every year. Just to avoid accidents, these bridges should be constructed immediately.

Sir, my next point is that an inter-city railway service should be provided in the State of Assam. Only two trains, one coming from Tinsukia to Guwahati and the other coming from Bongaingaon to Guwahati, are in operation within the State. We have got 65 townships in all in the Barak and the Brahmaputra Valley. This inter-city service should be provided to develop the communication network in the State.

My next point is about providing concessions to students who are going out of the State to avail of better educational facilities in different metropolitan cities of the country. Moreover, there should also be a cent per cent job reservation in the Railways for unemployed educated youth of the State. The State is backward in many respects. We have several million educated unemployed youth in our State. To accommodate these educated unemployed youth, there should be provision for cent per cent job reservation in the Railway Department.

My next point is about increasing the number of goods trains in the State. We have a very limited number of goods trains running in our State. As a result of this our local industries are suffering a great deal. The industries are unable to bring raw materials from other parts of the country and also transporting the finished products to the mainland is also a big problem for the local industries. So, the number of goods train running in the State should be increased.

The other point that I would like to mention is about setting up of a Regional Coach Factory in Assam. It has been promised in the Railway Budget that a number of manufacturing units would be set up in different parts of the country. My submission is that one such unit should be set up in the State of Assam.

My next point is about electrification of rail route. It has been mentioned that the Ministry has proposals for electrification of railway route. But till now, not even a single track in our State has been electrified. I would also like to submit that the railway workshop at Dibrugarh should be modernised and converted into a manufacturing unit.

Sir, these are the few points I wanted to bring to the notice of the hon. Railway Minister for his consideration. If the hon. Minister considers these points while replying to the debate, then I think, the people of Assam in particular and the people of the North-East in general would be largely benefited.

22.00 hrs.

DR. K.S. MANOJ (ALLEPPEY): First of all, I would like to congratulate our hon. Minister of Railways, Shri Lalu Prasad for presenting a populist Budget, which has not put any burden on the people by not increasing the passenger and freight rates. In addition to that, he has announced so many concessions for the unemployed youths and for those who are appearing for examinations. We do have several symbols of national integrity, like the national flag and the national anthem. Indian Railways is one among them, a prestigious one. But while presenting the Budget, our hon. Railway Minister, I think, has forgotten to maintain the national integrity. He has announced so many new trains and new lines, but there is nothing for Kerala. He has forgotten the Southern most State of India, that is Kerala. Of 46 new trains announced, not a single train has been introduced for the State of Kerala.

As far as the State of Kerala is concerned, rail traffic is congested there. It is over burdened. Doubling of railway lines is very essential there to maintain a safe and easy rail transport. So, I would request our hon. Railway Minister to allot adequate funds for the completion of Mangalore-Shoranur railway line. The hon. Prime Minister has declared Rs. 20,000 crore for many developmental activities in Kerala. That includes Vallarpadam Container Terminal and Rajiv Gandhi Thermal Power Project at Kayankulam. For completing all these projects, doubling of railway lines in Kerala is a must. So, I would request our hon. Railway Minister to take adequate steps for doubling Ernakulam-Kayankulam railway line, both via Allapuzha as well as Kottayam. Electrification of railway line has also to be completed from Ernakulam to Trivandram, via Kottayam as well as Alleppey.

I have already mentioned that out of 46 trains that were introduced, not a single train has been introduced to the State of Kerala. Now, there is a train from Trivandrum to Mangalore which runs twice in a week. My humble suggestion is that this train may please be run daily. A lot of students from Kerala are studying in Bangalore and Mangalore. So many private operators are plying buses daily in this route. They are conducting daily services from Trivandrum to Bangalore. If a new train from Trivandrum to Bangalore is introduced, it would be of great help to the students of Kerala.

Another blow to the Delhi Malayalees is that our prestigious train, the Kerala Express, running from the National Capital to the State Capital of Kerala, has been extended from New Delhi to Chandigarh in the new Railway Budget. That is a heavy blow to the Malayalees of Kerala. That should be withdrawn and an additional train from Trivandrum to Chandigarh should be started for the sake of the Malayalees living in Chandigarh.

Another request is that in the last Budget Shri Lalu ji announced a new train, the Sampark Kranti Express from Nizamuddin to Kochuveli. It has not been started until now. My humble request is that that train should be started at the earliest.

Next, there is the parcel booking service. In the Railway Stations where a train stops for not more than three minutes, there, parcel booking service is not allowed. That causes a severe hardship to the small agriculture growers, industrialists as also the porters who work in the Railway Stations. So, my humble request is that status quo should be continued. Formerly, in the Railway Stations where a train stops for three minutes and more, there, parcel booking service was allowed. So, I would request that status quo must be continued for the sake of the agricultural workers, industrialists and the porters.

Also, another request is that the Haripad Railway Station is a developing area. So many pilgrim centres are there. The NTPC is there. They are all nearby Haripad Railway Station. There is a proposal for the construction of a second platform in Haripad Railway Station. Also, there is a proposal for computerisation of the Haripad Railway Station. I would request the hon. Minister to consider these two proposals so that it will be helpful to the people of Kerala.

With these words, I conclude.

SHRI N.S.V. CHITTHAN (DINDIGUL): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I thank you for giving me this opportunity.

I rise to support the Railway Budget for the year 2005-06. I would like to compliment our Ministers Shri Lalu ji and Shri Velu ji for presenting again a popular Budget for the second time.

It is a laudable Budget meant for generations. Some of the salient features of the Budget are that, as we know, no hike in fares and freight charges; 46 new trains have been announced; 27 train routes have been extended; between New Delhi and Chennai, a superfast train with 150 km. speed per hour is to be introduced; the running time for 30 trains have been reduced; 400 new carriages will be added in the crowded trains, and Rs.24,000 crore is allotted for modernisation. It is proposed to extend full concession in second-class to unemployed youth appearing for interviews of the State Government jobs also. Fifty per cent concession is given in second class to farmers and milk producers for travel to institutions of national level. Seventy-five per cent concession in second-class fare is given to Government rural school students, full fee concession has been announced for those who are affected by national calamities. These are the salient features of the Budget.

In Tamil Nadu, there are various schemes which deserve early implementation and completion which amount to Rs.2500 crore. I am sorry to note that Tamil Nadu is very poor in this regard. More than 1800 kms. of metre gauge lines are to be converted into broad gauge lines. I believe that the hon. Minister, while replying, will increase our share.

Between Madurai and Chennai, there is vast traffic potentiality. A day-time passenger train may be introduced so that the poor and middle-class passengers will be benefited.

The track between Madurai and Dindigul is over-utilised to the extent of nearly 150 per cent. I mentioned this during last year’s Railway Budget debate also. At present, both broad gauge as well as metre gauge tracks exist between Madurai and Dindigul. A scheme to double these tracks was announced in the year 2003-04. A small amount of Rs. 3 crore was allocated last year and this year only Rs. 15 crore has been allocated for this project. The distance between Madurai and Dindigul is only 62 kms. So, I urge upon the hon. Railway Minister to allocate the full amount so that this scheme is completed this year.

Sir, a survey has already been ordered for laying a new broad gauge line between Madurai and Kottayam. It seems that the survey report has been shelved due to financial crunch. This line is very vital for the traffic between Tamil Nadu and Kerala and also for export of cardamom since it will give a direct and shortcut line between Madurai and Ernakulam.

Then, early implementation of Dindigul-Sabarimala broad gauge line project via Periyakulam will cut short the distance between Dindigul and Kerala by 140 kms. This project is of prime importance to the people of Southern States as it will provide the shortest railway route to Sabarimala which is thronged by millions of pilgrims throughout the year from the Southern States. So, I earnestly pray for the early implementation of this important project.

So far as freight charges are concerned, nearly 4,000 items have been rationalised into 80 groups. I welcome this productive step. But I am pained to note that the classification of food grains has resulted in an increase of 33.3 per cent of freight charge. I suggest that it may be brought under Class 100 which will have a marginal increase in freight rate so that it does not affect the common man.

Then, for gauge conversion work between Thiruvarur and Nagore, only Rs. 4 crore has been sanctioned this year. This is very meagre. Apart from that, a new line is proposed to be laid between Nagappattinam and Velankanni. I think land acquisition is almost over. Nagappattinam has got port connectivity. Nagore is a religious centre for Muslims and also it attracts a lot of tourists. The line between Nagore and Karaikkal will link both Pondicherry and Tamil Nadu. So, I would request that additional funds may be provided to complete this project this year.

Sir, Thirumangalam, my hometown, is a municipal town with a Government Medical College, other colleges, reputed schools, industrial estates and commercial centres. There are so many jawans from this area who are serving in many parts of our nation. As there is a vast passenger traffic potential, it will be more fitting and convenient if a Computerised Ticket Reservation Centre is opened at Thirumangalam.

Finally, Shri Lalu Ji has changed the age-old dogma that new schemes could be brought only by enhancing fares and freights. He has boldly rationalised the freight structure and also invited private sector participation for commercial utilisation of surplus railway lands.

With these words, I conclude my remarks.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Santasri Chatterjee – Not present

Shri P. Karunakaran – Not present

DR. THOKCHOM MEINYA (INNER MANIPUR): Mr. Deputy-Speaker Sir, today I am on roster duty on behalf of my Party, Indian National Congress, to sit in the House from 4 p.m. till the rise of the House. If the debate continues to be completed today, I seek your permission to express my felicitations to the hon. Minister of Railways and for this I beg to be excused.

Sir, as you know, the nearest Railway stations of Manipur are Dimapur in Nagaland and Silcher in Kachchar of Assam. This year, the hon. Minister has sanctioned one new line from Jiribam to Tupul, that is, Imphal, Manipur. The hon. Prime Minister has graciously laid the foundation stone of railways at Jiribam. We are very happy in the sense that the people in Manipur, who could not come out and have never seen any rail wagon not to speak of a rail line, could avail of this facility. This particular national project is targeted to be completed by March 2010. Therefore, I would request the hon. Railway Minister and officials of the Ministry of Railways to try to advance the completion of this project so that it could be completed by the year 2009.

The year 2009 is very important for us because the next parliamentary election is in 2009. So, please note this.

With these few words, the people of Manipur, the Government of Manipur and I on my own behalf express our gratitude to the hon. Prime Minister for laying the foundation stone of the railhead and the hon. Railway Minister for sanctioning this new rail line. Thank you very much.

SHRI MANJUNATH KUNNUR (DHARWAD SOUTH): Respected Deputy-Speaker, Sir, thank you very much for allowing me to speak on the Railway Budget.

I would like to draw the attention of the hon. Minister to the issues concerning my constituency in particular and my State of Karnataka in general. There is one underbridge in Haveri district headquarters and I had taken up this issue in my last year’s Budget speech, which I had laid on the Table of the House. This year also I am going to speak on the same issue. I have already met the hon. Minister in person in Rail Bhawan, and the hon. Minister, Shri Velu, assured me that he would take up this work. That underbridge is in a very, very dilapidated condition, and it was not built as per the technical specifications. The hon. Minister belongs to South India; he is from Tamil Nadu which is adjacent to Karnataka. I would request the hon. Minister to visit this spot and take the decision immediately. The estimated cost of the work pertaining to this underbridge is to the tune of one crore of rupees. I have promised to the hon. Minister that I would contribute a sum of Rs. 20 lakh from my MPLAD funds. Therefore, I would request the hon. Minister to take up this work as early as possible, and I hope I would not have to speak on the same issue in my next Budget speech. For this act of kindness, the entire population of my constituency and I would remember the hon. Minister forever.

The people are facing a lot of difficulty particularly in the rainy season because water stagnates there and as a result, the farmers and the people of that area cannot take their foodgrains through that underbridge. I would request you to rebuild that underbridge; a flyover bridge may please be constructed immediately as an alternative in the interest of the public. The whole thing, if I say it in Hindi, is like, ‘nÉÊ®ªÉÉ àÉå JɺÉJɺɒ. It is a very small thing from the Ministry’s point of view. Our Railway Ministry is an important Ministry in our country and it has taken up the task of networking the whole country, which will benefit the poor and the downtrodden. Therefore, my humble request to you is to construct this bridge immediately.

Secondly, in Rannibenur Railway Station, there is no foot-overbridge. There is a need to upgrade this Railway Station and to take construct this foot-overbridge immediately in the interest of the public.

Coming to Hubli, as you know, population-wise and from the viewpoint of passenger movement, it is the second largest city in Karnataka.

You have already established it but it is yet to become fully functional. The people of that area have been requesting you to make the South-Western Railway Zone fully functional immediately by providing stores, Railway Recruitment Board and all other administrative facilities.

Regarding new survey lines, in Karnataka no new double lines have been taken up and there are also no plans for electrification of lines. I request the hon. Minister of Railways to kindly ensure that a new survey is taken up in my area on Haveri-Kumta via Hanagal and Sirsi in the Konkan Railways on NH13 and from Kumta to Hanagal, Bankapur Cross that is on NH4. Yalivigi-Savanur to Gadag from coastal belt to the other belt is of utmost importance. Therefore, that may please be taken up. Davangere to Tumkur is also very important. If people of North Karnataka have to go to Bangalore they have to travel an extra distance of 80 kilometres now. From Davangere they have to take a round about route via Chikkajapur, Arisikere and Tumkur. A direct line between Davangere and Tumkur via Chitradurga is very essential. Therefore, that line may please be taken up.

Gauge conversion of Bijapur-Gadag line is very important. As you are well aware, yesterday there was an agitation, which is still going on. The project ought to have been completed by March, 2005. However, the work is delayed because sufficient funds were not made available. I humbly request you to take up this Bijapur-Gadag road.

Hubli-Ankola line is also a very important one. A broad gauge line which is already taken up is pending. That also may be taken up. There is an urgent requirement of introduction of new trains from Hubli to Pune, Hubli to Bombay, Bangalore to Hyderabad, and Bangalore to Chennai. There is a requirement of running of a Janshatabdi train from Bangalore to New Delhi.

One of my colleagues has also requested for a train from Tirupati to Shirdi. Shirdi is one of the important holy places of North India and Tirupati is one of the important holy places in South India. A large number of pilgrims keep travelling between these two places. A train may please be introduced between these two places at an early date.

An under-bridge at Yalivigi is also required in Haveri District. Upgradation of railway stations at Yalivigi, Byadaji and Rannibenur is a requirement. Stoppages of Janshatabdi and Rani Chennamma trains may please be provided at Byadaji and Yalivigi. There are a lot of burning problems. Therefore, I humbly request you to take up these works. I have already spoken on them in the past but I wanted to bring them to the attention of the hon. Railway Ministers once again. I would once again request the hon. Minister to take up the work of natural flyover of 395.6 metres at Haveri at the District Headquarters with utmost priority and complete that work. I would congratulate this Government if that work is undertaken and completed at the earliest.

Thank you very much for giving me this opportunity.

SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN (BALASORE): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, since it is quite late in the night, I will not make an elaborate speech and confine myself to two-three questions.

The hon. Ministers of State for Railways Shri Velu and Shri Rathwa are sitting here now. I would like to know as to what is the progress on the ‘online information’ system which was introduced in the Western Railway when Shri Nitish Kumar was the Railway Minister. Through that system a passenger wishing to know about a passenger train was able to know where the train is. Has there been any development in this regard? Secondly, are you going to introduce it in the other Railways also? Thirdly, what about the monitoring of wagons? During his time Shri Nitish Kumar also wanted to have computerised monitoring of the wagons.

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Have you improved upon that? What about the increasing the speed of the freight trains? Have you made any achievement in this regard? The goods trains will run at a greater speed. Specifically, in the Railways from where I come – South Eastern Railways – whatever cleaning of the trains is being done by urchins by collecting 50 paise or one rupee from everybody. There is no sign of the Railway sweepers in the trains. Are you going to have a Department of Sweepers or do you have Sweepers? Or you have left cleaning to the outsiders. I would like to have answer from you.

Regarding the other development works concerning Railways in my constituency, I would be writing letters to you. Regarding the development, there is a station called Jaleswar in South-Eastern Railway in Kharagpur Division, it is the beginning of Orissa from the Northern side, which could be developed as a terminus. So also trains from Jaleswar to Koraput, the other end of Orissa, Sambalpur, which could be introduced.

Last but not least, in this Railway Budget the hon. Railway Minister has promised that Rupsa-Bangiripori narrow gauge conversion has already been completed up to Baripada. We have been pressing for it for many long years. Money was already allotted. Member (Engineering) wrote me a letter a year back that it would have been completed by the last June, 2004. Now, the hon. Minister has in his printed Railway Budget speech made it clear that already the gauge conversion is completed. It was mentioned that it had already been completed by this financial year. Fifty per cent of the work has not yet been completed. I am going to bring a Privilege Motion tomorrow against the Railway Minister.

SHRI DHANUSKODI R. ATHITHAN (TIRUNELVELI): Sir, first of all, I compliment the Railway Minister Shri Lalu Prasadji, the Minister of State in the Ministry of Railways Shri Veluji and Shri Rathwaji for not increasing the railway fares for two years. It shows that the UPA Government is more concerned about the peoples’ welfare. Even though so many financial burdens are there, yet they have not transferred the burden to the people by not hiking the railway fares. I compliment the Railway Minister for presenting a good Railway Budget.

Sir, I represent the Tirunelveli constituency. It is the Southern part of Tamil Nadu. People’s aspirations are too much. From Tirunelveli to Tirchendur, metre-gauge lines are there covering nearly 60 kilometres. We have been fighting for the last 15 years for conversion of this sector into BG lines. There are more than 165 small bridges. Out of these, works on more than 145 small bridges have been completed. When I was the Minister of State for Youth Affairs and Sports in 1996, at that time these projects were sanctioned. In spite of that, only half of the work has been completed. I had also met the Minister Shri Velu and represented the case before the Budget. I urge upon the Railway Minister that he should sanction necessary amount to convert these MG lines to BG lines which will cater to the needs of the people of Tirchendur and Arumuganeri.

It is a town of salt-pan. Nearly 10,000 people are involved in the salt-pan work there. Therefore, these people will be greatly benefited if these metre gauge lines are converted into broad gauge lines. This B-G conversion is very, very essential.

Sir, Kanyakumari to Chennai is a chord line. It is a trunk line. A survey has already been completed for its doubling. This is a very important line connecting Kanyakumari and Chennai. I urge upon the hon. Railway Minister to kindly immediately order for sanctioning the amount for doubling the Kanyakumari-Chennai chord line.

Sir, Tirunelveli is the headquarters of the district. But platforms are not maintained well. The first platform is very important. But that platform has not even been converted into a broad gauge line. People like us are travelling every week and we have to go to the fourth and fifth platform to get the broad gauge trains. I have also represented the matter to Mr.Velu. So, I urge upon him to convert the first line platform into broad gauge line to facilitate the Kanyakumari Express, Nellai Express, Mumbai Express — which are very important trains – to come and halt at the first platform. This is really very necessary.

Sir, we want a new train to be introduced from Tirunelveli and from Tuticorin to Chennai. More than 10 lakh people of my area are living in Coimbatore and nearby places. We also want a new train to be introduced from Kanyakumari or from Tirunelveli and Tuticorin to Coimbatore. This is also very much required.

Another important thing is that the Nellai Express has been now made very speedy express train. In spite of that we need a good express train which connects Tuticorin, Nellai, Kanyakumari while directly coming to New Delhi.

Mr. Velu-ji, had served as a collector in our district. He is a very popular person in Tirunelveli, and the people of Tirunelveli expect so many things from him. I would, therefore, urge upon the hon. Railway Minister to make these things good.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Thank you.

Now, the House stands adjourned to meet again tomorrow, that is, 15th March, 2005 at 11.00 a.m.

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The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of the Clock

on Tuesday, March 15, 2005/Phalguna 24, 1926(Saka).

DR. M. JAGANNATH (NAGAR KURNOOL): Respected Speaker, Sir, the Rajolibanda Diversion Scheme is an inter-State irrigation project between the States of Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka. The allocation of water is 17.1 tmc, to be shared between Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka at 15.9 and 1.2 tmc respectively. The acres to have been allowed under this project is 87,000 in Andhra Pradesh and more than 5,000 in Karnataka. In spite of the best efforts by the State Government of Andhra Pradesh, not more than 40,000 acres of the land could be irrigated because the Government of Karnataka is illegally drawing water from the Rajolibanda Diversion Scheme. Water allocated to them is 1.2 tmc only.

Over and above that, now one power project has been approved by the State Government of Karnataka for production of 4.5 megawatt of power. The place allocated for this is just above the takeoff point of the RDS headwork. Which 7 feet wide the canal for this power project is 30 feet through which water comes to Hydel Power Project. If the power project is allowed there, not even a drop of water goes into the RDS canal thereby making 87,000 acres of land in Gadwal and Alampur areas, which are perennially drought-prone areas in the district to become dry. The farmers will face famine situation there. Sir, this project is called Swarna Power Project. … (Interruptions)

Sir, our efforts to persuade the Government of Karnataka have not yielded result as they were illegally drawing water previously and now the power project has been approved violating the inter-State agreement. I submit that 4,765 cusecs of water has to go through both the channels to produce power. If 850 cusecs of water were allowed through the RDS canal, it will irrigate more than one lakh acres in both Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka. Suppose, 4,765 cusecs have been allowed just above the headworks of RDS, then not even a drop of water will flow into the RDS canal thereby making this minor irrigation project a waste. … (Interruptions)

Sir, through you I would request the Government of India to see that this project is stopped forthwith because it is violating the inter-State agreement. I would request the Government of India to stop it immediately and save the farmers of Andhra Pradesh. … (Interruptions) particularly farmers of Alampur and Gadwal.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, what the hon. Member is saying is not correct. It is unfounded. … (Interruptions)

SHRIMATI TEJASWINI SEE RAMESH (KANAKAPURA): Sir, we cannot accept it. Karnataka is not drawing any additional water. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : This is very difficult.

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MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Ananth Kumar, you are a such a senior Member.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, he is continuously saying that Karnataka is drawing water illegally. It is not correct. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : Are you bound by his statement? You are not bound by his statement.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, we have to correct the impression. … (Interruptions)

DR. M. JAGANNATH : Sir, we are asking about correction only. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : Dr. Jagannath, you please conclude now. Nothing else, except what Dr. Jagannath says, will be recorded.

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MR. SPEAKER : Nothing is being recorded.

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MR. SPEAKER : Shri Adhir Chowdhary to speak now.

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MR. SPEAKER : It is very unfortunate.

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MR. SPEAKER : If there is anything unparliamentary, I will see and delete it.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, there is no unparliamentary word. Whatever hon. Member has said is far from truth. Karnataka is not drawing water. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : I have repeatedly been saying.

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MR. SPEAKER : Please give me also one opportunity.

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SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, whatever water Karnataka is using is legal. This is our view. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : Let me make one statement. At least give some respect to the Chair, Mr. Ananth Kumar.

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MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Yerrnnaidu, I have not called you. Please take your seat.

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MR. SPEAKER : Just a second please. I have been requesting every hon. Member and you all know that one hon. Member’s statement is not binding on anybody else. There are methods of objecting to that. You can put a question, you can put a supplementary or you can bring forward a motion. But, how can you go on confronting when submissions are being made?

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SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Sir, this is where we are asking the Government of India to interfere. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : Nothing is being recorded. You are not benefiting.

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MR. SPEAKER : Nothing will be recorded except what Dr. Jagannath says.

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MR. SPEAKER : Dr. Jagannath, please conclude now.

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SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Sir, we pray to the hon. Minister of Water Resources to send a team, get the information and if it is correct, then you ask the Government of Karnataka to stop that project. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : It is not a Minister’s statement on Government policy. An hon. Member of a State is saying it.

SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Sir, we ask the Union Government to look into it. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : I will look into it. You please sit down. Enough is enough, no more.

DR. M. JAGANNATH : Sir, 87,000 acres of land are affected. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : I am sorry, I will adjourn the House and go away.

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MR. SPEAKER : Shri Adhir Chowdhary to speak. Nothing else except what Shri Chowdhary speaks will be recorded.

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MR. SPEAKER : You sort it out amongst yourselves.

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MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Yerrannaidu, it is not being recorded. Dr. Jagannath, you please finish it. You have taken sufficient time. I have already called Shri Adhir Chowdhary.

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SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Sir, what he is speaking is not to be recorded. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : I will look into it.

DR. M. JAGANNATH : Sir, the farmers are suffering. … (Interruptions)

* Not Recorded.

MR. SPEAKER : Very well, I will say that some hon. Members objected to it.

SHRIMATI TEJASWINI SEE RAMESH (KANAKAPURA): Sir, I am requesting you. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : What are you requesting me? If it is not unparliamentary, he is entitled to speak.

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SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU : Sir, if it is true, please take action. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Ananth Kumar, you give a notice and I will allow you tomorrow.

SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : Thank you, Sir.

DR. M. JAGANNATH : Sir, I have not concluded.

MR. SPEAKER : No, you have said enough.

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MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Yerrannaidu, I am sorry to say that your colleague does not need your support.

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MR. SPEAKER : Dr. Jagannath, do not make any derogatory reference to anybody or any State.

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MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Ananth Kumar, I will allow you tomorrow. I have said it. Not even 24 hours are left.

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DR. M. JAGANNATH : Sir, this is an inter-State problem and thousands of farmers are suffering. I am not saying anything else. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : It is over. Nothing more is to be recorded.

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MR. SPEAKER : You cannot go on repeating what you are saying.

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MR. SPEAKER : What Mr. Yerrannaidu says will not be recorded.

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DR. M. JAGANNATH : Sir, 50,000 families under that project which fall in 75 villages will be deprived of that water. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : Dr. Jagannath, you have taken sufficient time.

DR. M. JAGANNATH : Sir, the Centre should forthwith look into it. There will not be even one drop of water if power project is completed. This water should come to RDS and irrigate the land in Gadwal and Alampur areas. The farmers are committing suicide. If this power project is allowed, it will be difficult for the famers of Alampur and Gadwal erstwhile Talukes of Mehebob nagar District to survive. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : You give notice tomorrow.

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DR. M. JAGANNATH : Sir, I would request the Government of India to interfere. Thank you.

MR. SPEAKER : I would request you to take your seat.

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